Just a Reminder, Canelo drew $17mil Gate Sales for 2019

[R-Hand Southpaw]

Why post old quotes? Because my foreshadowing is never wrong. DAZN has money. This is about fans who’ve been crying about GGG vs Canelo 3 for a long time. Just like your boy Wilder losing you disappeared from the forum for a hot minute. Guess what, Canelo vs GGG were not Wilder vs AJ.

And again, how much did GGG make in gate sales in 2019?

The point to the question is about complication since GGG’s future was in reliance to Canelo. evaluations are about to change, Mr. Thug Life

I love how every negative objective critique turns into, what about GGG?

What about GGG?

2 years ago youre saying Canelo don't need GGG! He won easy! He should move on and stop chasing Canelo.

Now you're begging for GGG to take the fight to save Canelos career!

Lmfao!

Let's face it. At this point Canelos career is over. Hes already 30 and already has said he doesn't want to fight when he's older.

No one is going to take a chance on Canelo after this disastrous showing. Who would sign a true diva like Canelo? And you expect Canelo to shell out his own money to make fights?

Please.

Dude won't even take 17 million for fights and best of luck to him trying to make anything close to that on his own.

Maybe he'll actually have to fight the best in order to make that money but does he still get those favorable score cards?

2020 RIP Canlelos career.

Best thing to happen in 2020 so far!

[Thuglife Nelo]

I love how every negative objective critique turns into, what about GGG?

What about GGG?

2 years ago youre saying Canelo don't need GGG! He won easy! He should move on and stop chasing Canelo.

Now you're begging for GGG to take the fight to save Canelos career!

Stopped reading here! The consensus for GGG to have taken that multi deal was the “promise” for the Canelo fight. Without Canelo, how does DAZN justify GGGs pay?! Lol derp derp

Where is GGG funna go now without Canelo? Canelo is good without DAZN or GGG. I’m doing you a favor to remind you the relevance of GGG in boxing. Nothing more

[Thuglife Nelo]

Huh? Wilder was never my boy and I surely didn’t leave when he lost.

I don’t know what he made off the top of my head and am not going to look because that isn’t the hot topic right now.

The hot topic is DAZN laying people off and canelo suing them. DAZN is in real trouble. Everyone knows This.

As to you not being wrong dude you clearly are because DAZN is almost out of the boxing business.

You kept arguing value but I think fans proved your theory wrong because they didn’t purchase the app at the rate expected.

Without canelo, casual fans are being asked to pay $100 for a year of fights with lower and middle tier fighters or boxers they don’t know and have never seen. I don’t know if that is something they want.

I think letting canelo walk , rebranding around AJ and other international fighters, and lowering the price to the equivalent of espn+ would be good for DAZN.

It’s also hard to ask canelo to take a pay cut when you pay almost $5 billion for Bundesliga.

Is what it is dude. I say let canelo and Haney go, rebrand, and try again but without any top American fighters it’s hard to take fans away from TR and PBC.

DAZN is not in trouble financially. They have money and like most big companies during the pandemic the luxury to be insecure with investments.

This is a feud between GBP vs Matchroom. With DAZN going global, why would DAZN even entertain drama of $8million of “premium” approvals vs non premium.

DAZN had been restructuring for a boxing centric portal for Q4. They want to make a mark GLOBALLY to want a crossover fighter in Canelo vs UFC fighter for world subs. That is a battle that DAZN will have to justify with GBP and Canelo. Since there’s no Canelo direct contract with DAZN he had to file against GBP because the Mexican hasn’t seen the contract between DAZN and GBP, not that he is entitled to it. However when there’s for approvals and $8mil Canelo wants to know what dafuq is going on, hence, even asking Oscar to make a different appearance on another network for the sake of staying busy. That’s called integrity and loyalty to the game in staying busy. Canelo has been training all year, sharing with Fans about staying ready.

I’m glad Canelo did this. It will start a new process for DAZN and GBp to work things out. Canelo should at least receive punitive damages for the Q4 fight not happening since Canelo would make earning elsewhere with the dynamic for. Perhaps didn’t opponents.

[The Big Dunn]

Man, some of the posts in this thread haven't aged well at all...

How's that "I paid $100 for the whole year" tasting right about now?

Yeah man. You can tolerate $100 if you get 2 canelo fights.

imagine trying to sell subs when fans know the 2 best fights they will see all year are ggg/ szemereta and AJ/pulev?

[The Big Dunn]

DAZN is not in trouble financially. They have money and like most big companies during the pandemic the luxury to be insecure with investments.

This is a feud between GBP vs Matchroom. With DAZN going global, why would DAZN even entertain drama of $8million of “premium” approvals vs non premium.

DAZN had been restructuring for a boxing centric portal for Q4. They want to make a mark GLOBALLY to want a crossover fighter in Canelo vs UFC fighter for world subs. That is a battle that DAZN will have to justify with GBP and Canelo. Since there’s no Canelo direct contract with DAZN he had to file against GBP because the Mexican hasn’t seen the contract between DAZN and GBP, not that he is entitled to it. However when there’s for approvals and $8mil Canelo wants to know what dafuq is going on, hence, even asking Oscar to make a different appearance on another network for the sake of staying busy. That’s called integrity and loyalty to the game in staying busy. Canelo has been training all year, sharing with Fans about staying ready.

I’m glad Canelo did this. It will start a new process for DAZN and GBp to work things out. Canelo should at least receive punitive damages for the Q4 fight not happening since Canelo would make earning elsewhere with the dynamic for. Perhaps didn’t opponents.

Dude they are laying people off and asking fighters to take significant pay cuts.

Subs are down and with no programming there hasn’t been new subs sold.

They are losing far more than expected and are behaving as such.

I think it’s time to rebrand. DAZN can try to go global but as of now they don’t look capable of expanding in the USA, which is the most important market.

[The Big Dunn]

Stopped reading here! The consensus for GGG to have taken that multi deal was the “promise” for the Canelo fight. Without Canelo, how does DAZN justify GGGs pay?! Lol derp derp

Where is GGG funna go now without Canelo? Canelo is good without DAZN or GGG. I’m doing you a favor to remind you the relevance of GGG in boxing. Nothing more

The problem is even with 2 canelo fights that doesn’t warrant the deal he got.

DAZN miscalculated the value of everyone they signed. They overpaid Up front expecting to make the money on the back end.

They forgot that the fights people really want to see canelo and ggg fight are with people not affiliated with DAZN.

Worse, they over paid Andrade, a dude no top fighter wants to fight because he is high risk, low reward.

[Thuglife Nelo]

Dude they are laying people off and asking fighters to take significant pay cuts.

Dude are you slow?

Reduction In Force protocols exists in all forms of business and it happens when a company seeks to maintain minimum stabilization. Big Corp Banks do it all the time.

DAZN USA, hence “USA,” laid off 2% of the global employment. Why? USA had the worst numbers in the world, specifically Covid stats. Yet they are going global. When more offices are needed in the new global expansion, DAZN will prefer to use the American salaries for the other territories since in Third world countries salaries are cheaper. You know, Apple, Dell, ring a bell?

The dollar, sterling, and Euro are still higher compared to most of the world during the pandemic with other markets dipping.

You guys are seriously misinformed. Lol. The global sport is football. Boxing was supposed to be the one sport that didn’t have restricted rights like it’s other categories.

You can’t stop OTT tech. It’s here to stay.

[Thuglife Nelo]

DAZN miscalculated the value of everyone they signed. They overpaid Up front expecting to make the money on the...

They didn’t miscalculate, and many of you don’t even apply Covid to 2020.

Everything was fine until Covid happened, and instigation towards DAZN while saying ESPN or PBC are the way to go make no sense.

Only fools think that DAZN wasn’t planning to go global from the jump. They first had to go with countries that were already doing streaming technologies and sales.

They wanted to pay premiums for boxing stars for the first two years before they went global, and any new territories DAZN wouldn’t have to give GBP commissions from the profits off the new territories, so you pay upfront all inclusive. Only until the contracts end would ideally their contracts raise in value for renewal.

For example I always had a feeling that once Canelo’s fights were over, he would sign a whopping $200mil deal for just 3 fights and call it quits for good. Because the idea is that DAZN would’ve grown Exponentially in the coming years and easily provide. Football is the biggest industry in the world. Boxing is nothing compared to football revenue.

This is why DAZN had caused a mess. If in theory Canelo helps maintain a USA brand with GBP fighters following, then why didn’t DAZN easily approve a difference of $8mil for the ideal premium fights with BJS and Smith? Those are $24mil and justified. Again, Matchroom opposition. It’s no surprise that Eddie pulls strings to make things more complicated than they should be. Most of Canelo’s opponents are all Matchroom. DAZN KNOWS it’s a GBP vs Matchroom ego battle.

All nonsense.

[The Big Dunn]

Dude are you slow?

Reduction In Force protocols exists in all forms of business and it happens when a company seeks to maintain minimum stabilization. Big Corp Banks do it all the time.

DAZN USA, hence “USA,” laid off 2% of the global employment. Why? USA had the worst numbers in the world, specifically Covid stats. Yet they are going global. When more offices are needed in the new global expansion, DAZN will prefer to use the American salaries for the other territories since in Third world countries salaries are cheaper. You know, Apple, Dell, ring a bell?

The dollar, sterling, and Euro are still higher compared to most of the world during the pandemic with other markets dipping.

You guys are seriously misinformed. Lol. The global sport is football. Boxing was supposed to be the one sport that didn’t have restricted rights like it’s other categories.

You can’t stop OTT tech. It’s here to stay.

No one is trying to stop it.

OTT tech isn’t the choice of most diehard fans of boxing. Younger people that use the internet for their media consumption don’t seem to like boxing. They like MMA. Maybe that’s part of the problem- not creating a forum that is used by the fanbase that loves boxing the most.

Also, the nature of the sport is such that in this era it attracts people to one off Huge events. The successful weekly boxing shows are always smaller name fighters and fights but that was when boxing was one of the major sports in the USA. It doesn’t occupy that space anymore.

It seems that fans don’t mind tuning into watch small fights on free or cable TV, but don’t want to have to pay a monthly fee for that. I think that is understandable.

Is what it is.

[The Big Dunn]

They didn’t miscalculate, and many of you don’t even apply Covid to 2020.

Everything was fine until Covid happened, and instigation towards DAZN while saying ESPN or PBC are the way to go make no sense.

Only fools think that DAZN wasn’t planning to go global from the jump. They first had to go with countries that were already doing streaming technologies and sales.

They wanted to pay premiums for boxing stars for the first two years before they went global, and any new territories DAZN wouldn’t have to give GBP commissions from the profits off the new territories, so you pay upfront all inclusive. Only until the contracts end would ideally their contracts raise in value for renewal.

For example I always had a feeling that once Canelo’s fights were over, he would sign a whopping $200mil deal for just 3 fights and call it quits for good. Because the idea is that DAZN would’ve grown Exponentially in the coming years and easily provide. Football is the biggest industry in the world. Boxing is nothing compared to football revenue.

This is why DAZN had caused a mess. If in theory Canelo helps maintain a USA brand with GBP fighters following, then why didn’t DAZN easily approve a difference of $8mil for the ideal premium fights with BJS and Smith? Those are $24mil and justified. Again, Matchroom opposition. It’s no surprise that Eddie pulls strings to make things more complicated than they should be. Most of Canelo’s opponents are all Matchroom. DAZN KNOWS it’s a GBP vs Matchroom ego battle.

All nonsense.

Come on dude everything wasn’t fine before Covid.

DAZN never reached the amount of usa sales expected.

Subs were flattening. The fights they had with canelo were not big sellers. Neither were the AJ fights.

Now you can downplay that all you want but America is the most lucrative and important market.

That is in part why I think it’s time to rebrand m, drop the price, and maybe some more Americans might try it and then DAZN can expand if later on they get a popular American draw.