Comments Thread For: Wilder-Ortiz Rematch - PPV Buys To Land Just North of 275,000

[Boxing Logic]

People want to watch real fights, not WWE scripts and fake punches in a boxing ring. IMO, that's what most modern boxing is. It's gotten so bad that counterpunching is being used as an excuse for why top boxers won't punch hard or aggressively at their opponents. Ridiculous. As if the way to avoid being counterpunched is to throw non-threatening half-power unsure punches.

I bought it for awhile, but IMO it was bull****, and the sport is fake now, including my favorite fighters. It sucks cuz boxing could be really exciting if the best fought the best in real fights. But IMO they're almost all fake now.

[mjh1969]

That was not a fight that was worth purchasing. Gone are the days where you have exciting heavyweight match ups like in the past. Wilder, Fury, Joshua isn't going to create enough excitement for me to throw a fight party. It doesn't surprise me to have these mediocre numbers for Wilder v Ortiz 2. I do think though that Wilder vs Joshua or another Wilder v Fury fight can do better ratings though.

[mjh1969]

People want to watch real fights, not WWE scripts and fake punches in a boxing ring. IMO, that's what most modern boxing is. It's gotten so bad that counterpunching is being used as an excuse for why top boxers won't punch hard or aggressively at their opponents. Ridiculous. As if the way to avoid being counterpunched is to throw non-threatening half-power unsure punches.

I bought it for awhile, but IMO it was bull****, and the sport is fake now, including my favorite fighters. It sucks cuz boxing could be really exciting if the best fought the best in real fights. But IMO they're almost all fake now.

Agree with you on this.

[SOLARPLEXUS]

People on here calling this a failure lol. How is making over $22M in PPV revenue a failure?

It's a failure because they lost money on the event. The actual purses were far in excess of that. They could make it back with a Ruiz fight but he has to beat Anthony Joshua before that's a possibility. Wilder will likely never sell more than 500k, this fight was a consequence of DAZN. Mayweather coming back in 2020 is the only thing that can give PBC the boost they're looking for on PPV.

[Vodkaholic]

Lmao a success doe.

[4truth]

People want to watch real fights, not WWE scripts and fake punches in a boxing ring. IMO, that's what most modern boxing is. It's gotten so bad that counterpunching is being used as an excuse for why top boxers won't punch hard or aggressively at their opponents. Ridiculous. As if the way to avoid being counterpunched is to throw non-threatening half-power unsure punches.

I bought it for awhile, but IMO it was bull****, and the sport is fake now, including my favorite fighters. It sucks cuz boxing could be really exciting if the best fought the best in real fights. But IMO they're almost all fake now.

That isn't what 99.9% of boxing is. If you are referring to the Canelo/Kovalev fiasco, I've no doubt that Kovalev gave it his best. The problem with that fight was the scourge of the A-side handicap. Kovalev was just nursing it trying to make the finish line.

[Stinger1]

275k is a good number against Ortiz but shows FOX massively overpayed. They clearly saw an opportunity to take Deontay from Showtime and probably knew the fighters' purses would be less than total PPV revenue generated. Not sure what happens with the Fury rematch though, will FOX sign up for another huge guarantee after this?

[KTFOKING]

He’s pulling 275k buys apparently against a hyped up KO machine opponent, who he has fought once and almost KO’d him. It had the right ingredients if promoted properly. That pulled 275k

Who else is he going to fight to get similar numbers? Whyte? The money would be in UK PPV.

His only future PPV fights rely on other established fighters, or in rare cases, a match up they can make attractive. He isn’t a commodity in his own. I don’t agree a Ruiz fight would be 50/50. If it ends up that way, Ruiz’s management are not doing their jobs properly as Wilder doesn’t have many more options outside of Fury

Do you think Ruiz/Ortiz would have done more than 275k buys?

Once again, he has PPV opponents in Ruiz/Joshua/Fury. He will be possibly in with Fury two on times on PPV and definitely against Ruiz if both win their next fights.

Ortiz is solid name, but nothing special. Let's not make him out to be a star. This fight got buys due to the great shoulder programming FOX did and Wilder.

[daggum]

People on here calling this a failure lol. How is making over $22M in PPV revenue a failure? Do any of you understand business? This match is simply buildup to a potential clash with the Ruiz/Joshua winner. Wilder will be fine, he did 250k buys against the relatively unknown Ortiz. Is Ortiz a good fighter? Yes. Is he a popular fighter? No. This makes 250k PPV buys a considerable amount.

first of all the ppv provider gets 30 percent so in reality they only made 15 million in revenue but if you spend 27 million and make 22 or 15 million how much did you make?

[N/A]

Anybody with half a brain knew fury wasnt the only one responsible for those buys.

The majority of posters here have far less than half a brain. Fury being responsible for all the buys was spouted here day in and day out for the last year. Clearly that's been proven untrue now.

As for the 2nd bolded part. The rematch DID NOT BELONG on ppv as the frist fight was a CLEAR win for Wilder.

If it sold over 275,000 buys, it belonged on PPV.

I agree the first fight was a clear win, but the UK trolls insisted Wilder was given unfair advantages and that the win was stolen from Ortiz. Hence the rematch. Wilder emphatically cleared any dispute. The trolls will come up with a new complaint soon.