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  • #51
    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post
    Abraham and DeGale were both at the very end of their careers and far past their primes. You’re buying into all the marketing and BS by suggesting they are legitimate wins.
    You can argue that it's a flaw of the Boxrec computers that fighters are still worth a lot of points after they're no longer at their peak, but it has nothing to do with marketing. You're not making any sense. Abraham and DeGale were valuable wins because of Abraham & DeGale's wins, not because of their drawing power.


    ANY THOUGHTS ON THE OTHER EXAMPLES?????
    No, because I don't need to have the same argument with you ten times at the same time. You think fighters should be worth more than they are, the computers disagree. If you have a bone to pick with Boxrec's formula, explain your gripes and make suggestions on how to improve the formula. It doesn't change the fact that Boxrec ratings are far more reflective of what a fighter has proven than sanctioning ratings are.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
      You can argue that it's a flaw of the Boxrec computers that fighters are still worth a lot of points after they're no longer at their peak, but it has nothing to do with marketing. You're not making any sense. Abraham and DeGale were valuable wins because of Abraham & DeGale's wins, not because of their drawing power.




      No, because I don't need to have the same argument with you ten times at the same time. You think fighters should be worth more than they are, the computers disagree. If you have a bone to pick with Boxrec's formula, explain your gripes and make suggestions on how to improve the formula. It doesn't change the fact that Boxrec ratings are far more reflective of what a fighter has proven than sanctioning ratings are.
      So what do you make of Dave Allen being ranked higher than Tony Yoka?

      Boxrec rankings are a joke...

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      • #53
        Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post
        So what do you make of Dave Allen being ranked higher than Tony Yoka?

        Boxrec rankings are a joke...
        David Allen quickly knocked out 28-1 Lucas Browne. Knocked out undefeated Nick Webb. Yes, he lost to Tony Yoka, but Yoka has had so few fights so far, he hasn't had time to accumulate points the way David Allen has.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
          David Allen quickly knocked out 28-1 Lucas Browne. Knocked out undefeated Nick Webb. Yes, he lost to Tony Yoka, but Yoka has had so few fights so far, he hasn't had time to accumulate points the way David Allen has.
          They only fought last year😂😂

          What makes wins over Webb (who’s never beaten anyone) and Browne impressive?

          In the last two years Yoka is 5-0, Whilst Allen is 5-2-1. Boxrec rankings evidently make no sense. Yoka also stopped Dimitrenko faster than Ruiz who was their #1 rated fighter at the time. (July 19)

          Just admit it... Boxrec ratings hold little validity.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post
            They only fought last year😂😂
            Yoka only has 7 fights. He hasn't had enough time yet to accumulate more points than Allen. Beating a fighter doesn't automatically give you more points than them. There are other factors.


            What makes wins over Webb (who’s never beaten anyone) and Browne impressive?
            Browne was 28-1. Allen knocked him out. That's a more impressive win than anything on Yoka's resume so far.


            In the last two years Yoka is 5-0, Whilst Allen is 5-2-1. Boxrec rankings evidently make no sense.
            It makes a lot of sense, you just have no idea how it works. Maybe you should go read the formula before criticizing it.

            If a 4-0 fighter beats a 13-3 fighter, he still only has 5 wins at that point, and wouldn't necessarily have enough points from those wins to have more points than the fighter with 13 wins.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
              Yoka only has 7 fights. He hasn't had enough time yet to accumulate more points than Allen. Beating a fighter doesn't automatically give you more points than them. There are other factors.




              Browne was 28-1. Allen knocked him out. That's a more impressive win than anything on Yoka's resume so far.




              It makes a lot of sense, you just have no idea how it works. Maybe you should go read the formula before criticizing it.

              If a 4-0 fighter beats a 13-3 fighter, he still only has 5 wins at that point, and wouldn't necessarily have enough points from those wins to have more points than the fighter with 13 wins.
              Number of fights don’t matter quality of opposition does.

              And on top of that the 7-0 fighter completely dominated and stopped the 17-5-2 fighter.

              Ranking Allen above Yoka is utter lunacy. As our boxrec rankings.

              David Benavidez and Fedor Chudinov have had close to the same amount of fights yet Chudinov is ranked higher.😂😂
              This contradicts your explanation, and makes it baseless.

              *DON’T DUCK THIS QUESTION*.

              In your opinion who ranks higher out of Dave Allen and Tony Yoka?

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              • #57
                Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post
                Number of fights don’t matter quality of opposition does.
                In Boxrec, both matter. Go read the formula before criticizing it.


                And on top of that the 7-0 fighter completely dominated and stopped the 17-5-2 fighter.
                Beating a fighter doesn't automatically jump you higher than them in Boxrec. Go read the formula before criticizing it.


                In your opinion who ranks higher out of Dave Allen and Tony Yoka?
                I have Allen higher in my personal ratings because when Yoka was inactive for over a year, I removed him from my ratings entirely. He's only fought once since and he hasn't climbed above Allen yet.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
                  In Boxrec, both matter. Go read the formula before criticizing it.




                  Beating a fighter doesn't automatically jump you higher than them in Boxrec. Go read the formula before criticizing it.




                  I have Allen higher in my personal ratings because when Yoka was inactive for over a year, I removed him from my ratings entirely. He's only fought once since and he hasn't climbed above Allen yet.
                  I’ve read the formula and they do not truly adhere to it, it is usually flawed.


                  He’s actually fought twice. WRONG...

                  So you rate Allen above Yoka who dominated and stopped him only 18 months ago.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

                  I think we’re done here...

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post
                    I’ve read the formula and they do not truly adhere to it, it is usually flawed.
                    You're not making any sense. Are you claiming Boxrec lies about their formula and doesn't actually follow it? Please provide an example of Boxrec not following their formula. It's all computerized. The results are input and the computer follows the formula. Not sure how you could claim otherwise.


                    He’s actually fought twice. WRONG...
                    He had over a year between fights, and has only fought once since then. Nobody is dis*****g that's two fights. Maybe you don't understand how words work?


                    So you rate Allen above Yoka who dominated and stopped him only 18 months ago.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
                    Yoka was suspended for a year for ducking several drug tests and very well may have cheated in the Allen fight. Once he didn't fight for a full year, as a standard policy, he was completely removed from my ratings and the ratings of many others.

                    He had over a year between fights, and then fought once more. He has to climb back up my ratings from scratch after being removed. He hasn't fought enough yet to move above Allen. Allen's win over Lucas Browne is a bigger win than anything on Yoka's resume.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
                      You're not making any sense. Are you claiming Boxrec lies about their formula and doesn't actually follow it? Please provide an example of Boxrec not following their formula. It's all computerized. The results are input and the computer follows the formula. Not sure how you could claim otherwise.




                      He had over a year between fights, and has only fought once since then. Nobody is dis*****g that's two fights. Maybe you don't understand how words work?




                      Yoka was suspended for a year for ducking several drug tests and very well may have cheated in the Allen fight. Once he didn't fight for a full year, as a standard policy, he was completely removed from my ratings and the ratings of many others.

                      He had over a year between fights, and then fought once more. He has to climb back up my ratings from scratch after being removed. He hasn't fought enough yet to move above Allen. Allen's win over Lucas Browne is a bigger win than anything on Yoka's resume.
                      https://*************/watch?v=ff9JNb-VEig

                      I think this says it all...

                      Delusional...

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