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  • #31
    Wilder just sits back trying to find range for that right hand. He is good in trying not to make a fight. Unless he gets pressure it is a boring fight with his low output.

    But with all that said he still finds a way to land it and to drop his opponent. There is a reason not to go right at him and that right hand can land at any point in the fight

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    • #32
      now we are going to find a way to complain about knock outs... Tyson was more skilled

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      • #33
        I think it’s just due to his low level of oppositions for too many years, that made a lot of people not interested in him.

        I mean Tyson was unifying in only his second title fight with Ruddock (If I remember correctly), Wilder hasn’t had a single unification in 4/5 years.

        And it doesn’t matter how anyone tries to sugarcoat it, you cannot blame every single one of the other champion in that time.

        Wilder’ down team did him a severe disservice, turning down multiple offers for him to actually fight a live body, and when he took a risk it was against a fighter that was coming out of a two years inactivity (With drinks/drugs/and obesity to deal with).

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        • #34
          Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
          Mike Tyson was torturing is opponents, he had a menacing look and attitude that seemed all so natural. His fights could of ended via once punch knock out, or a prolonged beat down where? The viewer witnessed, ribs and eye sockets being broken. People noses being snapped and purposely pushed up into their brains 'Violence all around'.

          Deontay Wilder is knocking guys out, but he is not really beating them up 'Ortiz's defeat was not really a career ending defeat' where as Mike Tyson's win against Razar Ruddock probably damaged him for the rest of his career.

          There is a element missing within Deontay Wilder, that in my opinion does not make him worthy enough of being the baddest man on the planet 'I don't think he has a intimidating aura, and I really don't think his opponents are afraid of him'
          Story about Mike Tyson, 10 minute mark and onwards etc

          Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 12-05-2019, 12:06 PM.

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          • #35
            Wilder is must see because he is a lights out puncher but also because on the surface of it all, he’s tall but he’s a small heavyweight. Routinely giving up 30 pounds.

            He’s not a young man. He’s 34. There was always this perception that if he wanted he could be a 230-40 pound heavyweight of solid muscle but he can’t.

            He’s not built like that. He’s a greyhound, lean and mean. But with that I still feel in his fights someone at some point will hurt him but in the same breath knowing he could send them to Mars with one punch. And then the added ****e is that he’s been roundly outboxed several times already. So the whole thing is just compelling.

            The proof is in the pudding though and we’ve only seen Wilder in bad trouble once. But you just look at him sometimes and just think surely this guy can’t hold a massive shot.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by STREET CLEANER View Post
              Wilder just sits back trying to find range for that right hand. He is good in trying not to make a fight. Unless he gets pressure it is a boring fight with his low output.

              But with all that said he still finds a way to land it and to drop his opponent. There is a reason not to go right at him and that right hand can land at any point in the fight
              I suppose that’s right. But I do wonder how Ruiz would go against Wilder. He’d have to go right at him and go hook happy.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by MartialMind View Post
                Do you think Wilder's power is less impressive than guys like Mike Tyson or George Foreman due to the fact that most of his fights are actually boring until he lands that right hand KO?

                With Tyson for example even before he landed his KO he was an interesting fighter to watch duck and weave and peak-a-boo and then he landed the shot/s.

                With Wilder is it that he's got no foreplay before the KO, so that takes away from the enjoyment of his fights when he does land.
                I support wilder.. but i think no one relies on their power in boxing as much as he does.. and for good reason
                Yes he does get the knockout.. he did against ortiz but reallly seriously there are a lot of better ways to land that hell of a right hand earlier without looking like a complete bum in the process..

                I think what you said is true at a certain extent
                Prime Pac doesn’t have one punch KO power but is so much respected For his power because of how he breaks down opponents

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Sparked_26 View Post
                  I suppose that’s right. But I do wonder how Ruiz would go against Wilder. He’d have to go right at him and go hook happy.
                  Everybody that opens up to Wilder gets put down. Ortiz got confident in the last fight, started to get more offensive and went down. The few times that Fury stood his ground a bit or stood still he went down twice.

                  Ruiz has fast hands once close and Wilder does not have a good inside game. If Ruiz can swarm with head movement and angles he can cut the distance.

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                  • #39
                    It is less impressive because beating old guys doesn`t mean much. And stopping guys like Washington, Szpilka doesn`t mean much.

                    Wake me up when Wilder beats a prime heavyweight.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post
                      It is less impressive because beating old guys doesn`t mean much. And stopping guys like Washington, Szpilka doesn`t mean much.

                      Wake me up when Wilder beats a prime heavyweight.
                      Wilder dropped or Ko'ed each and everyone of his opponents. He may have never beat a prime heavyweight in your book, but he certainly dropped some prime chins.

                      You can continue to delude yourself if it comforts your insecurities however.

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