How to exterminate Haymon out of boxing

[Lopez_Boxing]

Ummm. Yeah. That was in fact entirely unintentional and obviously - according to the law - innaccurate. I keep forgetting that the guy who runs one of the biggest boxing promotions in the US can't be described as a boxing promoter.

Damn. He can't sue me for that ish can he?

Ermm: I'd like to thank Al Haymon...

Regardless though, whatever his role is, why do I keep hearing about how he's saving boxing? What makes him different from the collection of sharks and ne'er-do-wells that run the rest of the sport, all of whom would appear to have a vested interest in keeping it afloat.

Hes not a promoter. He is a manager

[Citizen Koba]

He trying to create a singular title thus bringing more clarity to the sport 1 champ per division not 5 or 6 that was the point of PBC only 1 guy saw what he was trying to do and that was Dana white as Haymon was taking his model. Is Haymon perfect? No but if it bring clarity back I’m down.

The single title thing I'm down with, absolutely, although I'd much rather it was in the hands of a supra-national agency. There's a long way to go before any promotion gets itself in a position of enough dominance to claim that authority especially given that every continent has well established boxing communities already. It's not like the UFC where the Gracie's basically got in on the ground floor with what amounted to a new product. Gonna take a lot to get Mexico and Europe playing ball, especially given PBCs marked preference for home grown talent.

I do kinda hope that some organisation emerges to unify the sport, but every previous attempt seems only to have resulted in more fracturing... time will tell how this one goes though I guess. I got nothing at all against Haymon, I was just curious about about why some guys seem to think he's doing something different.

[Citizen Koba]

Hes not a promoter. He is a manager

I know, man. I already acknowledged I was wrong. He's a manager who runs a boxing promotion. Forgive my mistake.

Does that fundamentally change the nature of my original question? Can you tell me why some people say he's saving boxing? What's your take?

[Lopez_Boxing]

I know, man. I just said I was wrong. He's a manager who runs a boxing promotion. Forgive my mistake.

Does that fundamentally change the nature of my original question? Can you tell me why some people say he's saving boxing? What's your take?

ANYONE thats providing me with boxing is ok in my book. As far as saving boxing, never heard anyone say that. People also said that Aj is a great HW. I guess some people say the darndest things

[Toffee]

To be fair, they all want in house fights. Haymon isn't alone in that.

What I would love to know is how he keeps his fighters, even when it's apparent that they are passing on better opportunities.

How does he convince Wilder that he's better off with PBC when the big money offers are coming from elsewhere? How does he get Ortiz to pass on $7M against Joshua?

If the answer is money, then where does it come from?

If it's not money, what the hell is it?

[Citizen Koba]

ANYONE thats providing me with boxing is ok in my book. As far as saving boxing, never heard anyone say that. People also said that Aj is a great HW. I guess some people say the darndest things

Not that it's got a bearing on the matter at hand, but FWIW AJ was always my least favourite of the current top 3/4 Heavies...

I'm good with Al and wish PBC good fortune, it's quite possible that the success of PBC will be good for US boxing. If I have any concerns it's that I'm an international fan and think that non-American fighters are underrepresented by the promotion and might be disadvantaged should PBC become the dominant global player.

As for folk saying Al's saving boxing, the dude who I was actually originally replying to said exactly this:

Why do you hate Haymon in boxing when he’s literally the only person trying to save it????

Note that he wasn't replying to me, but to the TS who appears to have some irrational level hatred of Haymon, I was just curious cos I've heard others (like my man MCC) voice similar opinions about Haymons / PBCs mission. And I wasn't trying to insinuate anything by calling Al a promoter, I just genuinely forgot about the court case and I'm so used to just thinking of him as the the guy that runs PBC.

[Lopez_Boxing]

Not that it's got a bearing on the matter at hand, but FWIW AJ was always my least favourite of the current top 3/4 Heavies...

I'm good with Al and wish PBC good fortune, it's quite possible that the success of PBC will be good for US boxing. If I have any concerns it's that I'm an international fan and think that non-American fighters are underrepresented by the promotion and might be disadvantaged should PBC become the dominant global player.

As for folk saying Al's saving boxing, the dude who I was actually originally replying to said exactly this:



Note that he wasn't replying to me, but to the TS who appears to have some irrational level hatred of Haymon, I was just curious cos I've heard others (like my man MCC) voice similar opinions about Haymons / PBCs mission. And I wasn't trying to insinuate anything by calling Al a promoter, I just genuinely forgot about the court case and I'm so used to just thinking of him as the the guy that runs PBC.

As much as i HATE TO GO HERE its pretty obvious some men on here are pathetic enough to ride with people the same race as them ONLY because they share the same race. Of course PBC is not saving boxing. Hearn making the move to USA and putting tol draw guys in DAZN is bigger than ANYTHING PBC has done. No promotional out fit is without flaws. I believe PBC gets TOO MUCH credit from some guys amd NOT ENOUGH from others

[Eff Pandas]

D+ troll thread

[Inspired]

If the saudis or emirati or qatari arabs offer al haymon $1b to buy out the PBC, he should sell...and they should give him a similar tole to the one he has already...where he just plays hide and seek.
Furthermore, if this happens, Eddie/dazn are ****ed and ill switch sides lmao.
ill rather support the arab oil money over the *** bolshevik/soviet money (because 40m orthodox christians were massacred by bolsheviks and their atrocities against german/polish civilians played a big role in the holocoast even happening)...so i still connect leonard blavatnik, a guy who got rich just like the likes of roman abramovich, off the soviet money after 1990...to the dirtiest of dirty money. They looted russia, stripped it's assets and took off to western europe, NY or Israel.
it's actually annoying that i support eddie hearn but dont like dazn.
arab money comes in and buys out whoever, they will put in serious money in acquiring the best boxers..and eddie can go back to putting on solid uk cards instead of focusing on helping the american market...putting on cards in ****sville town where 3 people show up.

[Inspired]

If the saudis or emirati or qatari arabs offer al haymon $1b to buy out the PBC, he should sell...and they should give him a similar tole to the one he has already...where he just plays hide and seek.
Furthermore, if this happens, Eddie/dazn are ****ed and ill switch sides lmao.
ill rather support the arab oil money over the *** bolshevik/soviet money (because 40m orthodox christians were massacred by bolsheviks and their atrocities against german/polish civilians played a big role in the holocoast even happening)...so i still connect leonard blavatnik, a guy who got rich just like the likes of roman abramovich, off the soviet money after 1990...to the dirtiest of dirty money. They looted russia, stripped it's assets and took off to western europe, NY or Israel.
it's actually annoying that i support eddie hearn but dont like dazn.
arab money comes in and buys out whoever, they will put in serious money in acquiring the best boxers..and eddie can go back to putting on solid uk cards instead of focusing on helping the american market...putting on cards in ****sville town where 3 people show up.

it currently looks like dazn and the arabs are working together..so the other option might never happen.
ruiz actually trashed saudi arabia before al haymon told him to shut the eff up...ie al haymon knew he couldnt lose the saudi connection, eddie cornered him with the saudi move.