Why Ellerbee Was Right On Wilder

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  • Raggamuffin
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    #41
    Originally posted by daggum
    a contract is legally binding. this is not some haymon behind the scenes here is some money deal. joshua is making more money after losing to ruiz so your whole point doesn't make any sense. the fights would still happen no matter what. just like the ****** ortiz rematch happened when no one wanted it. promises were made and big losses were had to satisfy the fighters. there is no need for hypotheticals. the money was there and he didn't go for it out of loyalty. he even said this. he also said he's ******** on himself. well given his purses his gamble didn't pan out. wilder will not make 60 million in his next fight.
    What if I told you that I don't give a **** what they make as long as they give us fans the fights that we want to see. That ***** Joshua wouldn't fight Wilder so Wilder went and fought everyone else who is relevant. Meanwhile the spoiled stiff conceited ***** is fighting to save his coddled boxing career. **** outta here with your convoluted idiocy.

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    • Scipio2009
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      #42
      Originally posted by kafkod
      Excuses, excuses, excuses ...

      The fact is that Wilder was screaming and crying all over the place about wanting to unify with AJ. And when he was offered the chance to do it for fantastic money .. he turned it down.
      Short money should rightfully be pissed on, regardless of how "fantastic" tbh.

      Wilder and his camp we're ready and willing to travel to the UK for a 60/40 Joshua share on the event, but Hearn refused. Wilder and his camp then seemingly were still going to take the fight for a lump fee basically worth 40% of the take on Joshua-Klitchko (if the public info is anywhere near accurate, that'd be $18m-$20m), and that was balked at too.

      Hearn offered $12.5m for Wilder to come to the UK, the offer got up to $15m to come to the UK, Wilder then offered $50m for Joshua to come to the US, which Joshua backed out on.

      In less than 16 months, Wilder's value to Hearn went from $12m to $40m, and it'll likely be out of Hearn's in another 12 months completely.


      All because Matchroom Sport refused to put up the $18m-$20m package to host Deontay Wilder at Wembley, for the undisputed heavyweight championship (likely on Sky Box Office and CBS in the US).

      Crazy how history would've changed lol

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      • Ray*
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        #43
        Originally posted by kafkod
        Excuses, excuses, excuses ...

        The fact is that Wilder was screaming and crying all over the place about wanting to unify with AJ. And when he was offered the chance to do it for fantastic money .. he turned it down.
        I remember those cries on social media by Wilder, looking back now, he never wanted that fight 😂 he practically played us all.

        He must have turned down like 5 offered from Matchroom to fight Joshua and Whyte.

        Now he is guaranteed 3m for Ortiz 2 with the PPV been reported low, and he earned way less in the breazeale fight compared to the 20m he would have earned guaranteed with DAZN...He got paid in loyalty for the Breazeale fight SMH...

        With the Ortiz 2 PPV he has 3m guaranteed money, that alone is disgraceful!!! A fighter of his stature should be guaranteed minimum 20-25m, but but but wait for the Haymon side 20m that only he does and no other promoter does..

        These guys are clowns

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        • koolkc107
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          #44
          Originally posted by Scipio2009
          So, $100m turns to $20m, Wilder jeopardizes his relationship with Showtime, DAZN gooses one US event to market without Canelo, and they get to walk away free without having to deliver Joshua (which likely ends up being something they couldn't deliver to begin with)

          Short money over long
          He made that 20M (or close to it) anyway.

          And he just pocketed another 20M.

          Look, I will ask again.

          I need all these posters talking about they don't believe Wilder is getting what to show me why we should disbelieve those reports while believing what Canelo "reportedly" got or what Fury "reportedly" got or what AJ "reportedly" got. How is it different?

          And while you're at it, show me the viewership numbers from ESPN for Fury's fight with Wallin, show me the viewership numbers for Canelo's fight with Kovalev, show me the DAZN numbers for AJ vs Ruiz.

          They are all being paid enormous sums for very ordinary numbers but the only time you are worried about fights losing money is with Wilder?

          Where they do that at?

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