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  • #21
    Originally posted by Ray* View Post
    That’s the thing people are not listening. This is UKAD’s process, they did that with everyone, they are not hiding anything. Ryan Martin who was banned for 4 years last week also went through the same thing, just like Fury, just like Larry Olabamiwo, UKAD are not there to protect Whyte , it’s the process that we need to criticise not that they caught Whyte, and it wasn’t UKAD that allowed him to fight.

    People are not grasping anything, they read not comprehend or retain any information that they have been given.
    Their process needs sped up because they are effectively putting fighters at risk by delaying their statements.

    When the fail test news came out, I was outraged with Team Whyte and all, but knowing how UKAD work I knew we all have to wait for them to spend another 12 months to finish off their processes.

    But all you hear on here is “Where is the B-sample” “Why is Whyte fighting again” (They can not stop him from fighting or earning a living when they haven’t proved him guilty yet), or the best ones so far “UKAD is going to hope this goes away, forgotten about or sweep it under the carpet”

    Yeah they would catch someone then they would bury it? Like when USADA (UKAD equivalent) were accused of protecting Mayweather...... Think with your God given brains people.
    It is a frustrating and seemingly extremely drawn out process at UKAD. I know their funding isn't top notch, often wondered if increased cash flow would improve the fluidity of their operations.
    Their slow process essentially puts fighters at risk by delaying their statements.
    Last edited by Reverb; 11-27-2019, 01:57 PM.

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    • #22
      It's ridiculous! He either failed or did not fail that test. That he passed other tests is irrelevant. If he didn't pass ALL testing, then he got caught cheating, period.

      UKAD is doing no one (especially themselves) any favors by not having every step of the process made public.

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      • #23
        Let them all do drugs if they want to. Boxing is dominating by cheating in general. Whether it be Haymon doin shady back room deals or dodgy home advantage officiating or bias contracts, it’s a openly corrupt sport.

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        • #24
          UKAD are even more pathetic than USADA, and that's saying something. Typical of the bureaucracy of these types of pen pushing, nerd-filled organisations. I'm no fan of Hearn, but I agree with him here. Just let the public know your findings.

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          • #25
            Drug cheat running off to a rogue nation to continue his tainted career.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Reverb View Post
              Passed with VADA, something came up with UKAD but it's never been clarified and he was cleared to fight.
              I know you're just doing that angry trolling thing, but there is a huge gap in what is actually known.
              But hey, run away on the assumption train why don't you. You enjoy that, it's your whole thing, that and being a cheerleader. Got your pompoms and little shorts at the ready along with the angry typing fingers twitching away.

              Eric Molina - Currently banned by UKAD
              Mariusz Wach - Failed a test for Stanozolol
              Dillian Whyte - Still waiting for the B sample
              Povetkin - Renowned and repeated drug cheat.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by jondacon View Post
                I think its more procedure then anything.. it's like Innocent until proven guilty. He was cleared while they await the B Sample.. doesnt mean he's innocent.
                Originally posted by Ray* View Post
                That’s exactly it, I think they need to do more to quicken their processes. They are not going to stop him from earning a living through boxing until they have proven him guilty.
                He wasn't cleared while they wait for the B sample. He asked the NADP to make a ruling on the basis of the A sample alone, plus the results of his VADA tests, without waiting for the B sample to be analysed. It's UKAD's "procedure" which is holding things up.

                The B sample isn't really relevant. If it's the same as the A sample, so what? He's already been provisionally cleared on the basis of that evidence. And if it's different, then the whole test is invalidated and he's in the clear.

                There has only ever been one instance of a fighter getting off a PED charge because of his B sample. That was when Manuel Charr failed a VADA test while training for Fres Oquendo and then had the whole test declared void because VADA had tested his B sample without his representative being present when it was opened.
                Last edited by kafkod; 11-27-2019, 03:35 PM.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Dramacyde View Post
                  Eric Molina - Currently banned by UKAD
                  Mariusz Wach - Failed a test for Stanozolol
                  Dillian Whyte - Still waiting for the B sample
                  Povetkin - Renowned and repeated drug cheat.
                  Luis Ortiz - Another renowned and repeated drug cheat who just fought Deontay Wilder for the second time.

                  And Whyte isn't waiting for his B sample. He's waiting for UKAD to get their finger out of their arse and complete their "procedure"

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by saintpat View Post
                    UKADA aka SHADY-ADA and BBBoC aren’t always public with their dealings. Tyson Fury was suspended but they never announced it and we learned when it was over. Threaten a lawsuit and they go underground.

                    I’ll believe he’s cleared to fight in the UK when I see him do it again.
                    You saw him fight Rivas, didn't you?

                    UKAD can't suspend him again unless they complete their investigation first. And if they'd done that, they would have announced it.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Ray* View Post
                      That’s the thing people are not listening. This is UKAD’s process, they did that with everyone, they are not hiding anything. Ryan Martin who was banned for 4 years last week also went through the same thing, just like Fury, just like Larry Olabamiwo, UKAD are not there to protect Whyte , it’s the process that we need to criticise not that they caught Whyte, and it wasn’t UKAD that allowed him to fight.

                      People are not grasping anything, they read not comprehend or retain any information that they have been given.

                      When the fail test news came out, I was outraged with Team Whyte and all, but knowing how UKAD work I knew we all have to wait for them to spend another 12 months to finish off their processes.

                      But all you hear on here is “Where is the B-sample” “Why is Whyte fighting again” (They can not stop him from fighting or earning a living when they haven’t proved him guilty yet), or the best ones so far “UKAD is going to hope this goes away, forgotten about or sweep it under the carpet”

                      Yeah they would catch someone then they would bury it? Like when USADA (UKAD equivalent) were accused of protecting Mayweather...... Think with your God given brains people.
                      Lol ... tell me about it!

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