Do Wilder's defences over Breazeale and Ortiz II count?

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  • W1LL
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    #1

    Do Wilder's defences over Breazeale and Ortiz II count?

    Considering the WBC belt is rightfully Tyson Fury's? Did Wilder lose his pull as a "champion" the night they robbed Fury in Los Angeles?
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    #2
    I scored the fight to Fury but of course they count...

    Whether we like it or not Wilder-Fury 1 was a draw and Wilder retained his title.

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    • 4truth
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      I tend to agree but why didn't Fury insist on the immediate rematch? From all appearances it was Wilder chomping at the bit to make it happen and Fury wandering off with Bob Arum to let the fight marinate.

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      • _Rexy_
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        Fury should have taken the immediate rematch. I'd never before seen the guy that people called the winner running from the rematch while the guy people are calling the loser is chasing it.

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          • STREET CLEANER
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            #6
            Fury says he won and he would school him again.

            But why he didn't rematch the guy right away?

            I guess you have to see his interview about Wilder's power...

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            • Larry the boss
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              #7
              Did Fury's wins count when those drug tests came back and he vanished?

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              • Larry the boss
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                #8
                Originally posted by 4truth
                I tend to agree but why didn't Fury insist on the immediate rematch? From all appearances it was Wilder chomping at the bit to make it happen and Fury wandering off with Bob Arum to let the fight marinate.
                Originally posted by _Rexy_
                Fury should have taken the immediate rematch. I'd never before seen the guy that people called the winner running from the rematch while the guy people are calling the loser is chasing it.
                Originally posted by THEFRESHBRAWLER
                AA7-C0-F1-A-CC19-4-B3-D-840-F-85-E6-C19757-D2
                Originally posted by STREET CLEANER
                Fury says he won and he would school him again.

                But why he didn't rematch the guy right away?

                I guess you have to see his interview about Wilder's power...
                yep,yep,yep and yep...............then he completely left boxing after Otto Wallin busted him up..now he is a wrestler and an MMA fighter in training..if he just wants to make money then i am 100 percent cool with that..but stop selling wolf tickets

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                • boliodogs
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                  #9
                  Most thought Tyson won but the officials called it a draw so Wilder is still champ and the defenses count. Most thought GGG beat Canelo twice but officially Canelo won and is the new champ. Same thing with Horn getting the hell beat out of him by Pac and losing 9 or more rounds and becoming the new champ. Bad home town and home country decisions are just a part of boxing and that won't ever change.

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                  • famicommander
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                    #10
                    The decisions are what they are, no matter how much we may disagree sometimes.

                    Otherwise Manny Pacquiao would still have the WBO belt that Horn robbed him of, then dropped to Crawford.

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