Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz: Any Heavyweight That Thinks I'm Old, Get In The Ring

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  • Laligalaliga
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    #21
    Originally posted by slimPickings
    "Exposed" by who?
    Let him join the queue or make offers to other HW's.
    No body owes him a dime.

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      #22
      Maybe Dillian Shyte will grow some balls and fight him.

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        #23
        Originally posted by DumpkinsPlus5
        He's right. When Wilder fights him, it's "Ortiz is old and washed up." If he's so old and washed, why doesn't any other Heavyweight wanna fight him. The only HW to offer Ortiz a contract was Joshua. Any other takers?
        This^^^^^^^^^

        Fools talk a lot of crap about Ortiz but none of them want that smoke. If he's so old, slow, and overrated then it shouldn't be a problem for the other heavyweights to fight him. The only ones who had the stones to do so were Wilder, Joshua, and Jennings

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        • slimPickings
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          #24
          Originally posted by Laligalaliga
          Let him join the queue or make offers to other HW's.
          No body owes him a dime.
          Well i was just trying to get clarification on the "exposed" claim.

          Hopefully some of these clowns masquerading as TOP HW will grown a pair and attempt to "expose" him.

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          • Fire4231
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            #25
            Much success to one of the greatest fighters of this generation Luis Ortiz. They are running out of places to duck.

            We all know Eddie Hearn made up this sound byte to justify AJ and Dillian Whyte ducking King Kong Ortiz.

            However the challenge is can they explain why age matters to them so much when that fighter is undefeated and at the top of the division. For Whyte, Ortiz was even ranked higher than him. Why wouldn't you want the old man?

            However what is increasingly telling about the real reason for the sound byte is not just the ducks in a row, it is this... There are three UK fighters clearly ducking Ortiz. They are the same ones that keep the "King Kong is old," in their hip pocket Joshua, Whyte and Fury.

            What isn't said enough is two of those fighter in Joshua and Fury made there HW name fighting Vladimir Klitschko. At the time Fury fought him he was 39. At the time Joshua fought him he was 41. Remarkably the same age as Luis Ortiz? Where is this new respect for older fighters coming from?

            Matter fact Joshua and Fury have been fighting guys near or over 40 recently. Just recently Fury fought Sefer Seferi who wasn't even on his level. Well he was 40.

            Joshua fought Povetkin and Takam and struggled. So whats special about 40 year old Ortiz? Is it that he was ranked #4 in the division and may be the best pure boxer in the Heavyweight division.

            We all know whats up. Even the trolls with their fight prevention efforts. Give me old boxing where Moorer took on Foreman and got KTFO. Non of this wining and posturing we see today in order to keep the peoples hero's safe.

            These guys need to fight Ortiz. Lets start with Whyte. He needs something to do as we wait on the B-Sample. Looks like it was shipped by Pony Express across the Atlantic.

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              #26
              Originally posted by tokon
              Hearn made a good job of keeping Joshua and Whyte away from Ortiz whilst Ortiz was signed with him so no chance he'll let him near them now!
              Dillian Whyte was begging Hearn for a fight with Ortiz back then, but Eddie wanted to keep the old guy safe for an easy mandatory defense by AJ.

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              • Laligalaliga
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                #27
                Originally posted by Rip Chudd
                This^^^^^^^^^

                Fools talk a lot of crap about Ortiz but none of them want that smoke. If he's so old, slow, and overrated then it shouldn't be a problem for the other heavyweights to fight him. The only ones who had the stones to do so were Wilder, Joshua, and Jennings
                He has a team...he can as well make offers to other HW's.
                Are you that dumb?

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                • Laligalaliga
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by slimPickings
                  Well i was just trying to get clarification on the "exposed" claim.

                  Hopefully some of these clowns masquerading as TOP HW will grown a pair and attempt to "expose" him.
                  You are one of the clowns if you don't think Ortiz team should make an offer to other guys to prove hez not over hyped and old.
                  Nobody is obliged to make an offer to him.

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                  • kafkod
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                    #29
                    Ortiz can make a bit more money as a stepping stone for up and coming contenders. Good luck to him, but he needs to be realistic with his financial expectations now. He doesn't offer much by way of either money or legacy for anybody.

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                    • Laligalaliga
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Fire4231
                      Much success to one of the greatest fighters of this generation Luis Ortiz. They are running out of places to duck.

                      We all know Eddie Hearn made up this sound byte to justify AJ and Dillian Whyte ducking King Kong Ortiz.

                      However the challenge is can they explain why age matters to them so much when that fighter is undefeated and at the top of the division. For Whyte, Ortiz was even ranked higher than him. Why wouldn't you want the old man?

                      However what is increasingly telling about the real reason for the sound byte is not just the ducks in a row, it is this... There are three UK fighters clearly ducking Ortiz. They are the same ones that keep the "King Kong is old," in their hip pocket Joshua, Whyte and Fury.

                      What isn't said enough is two of those fighter in Joshua and Fury made there HW name fighting Vladimir Klitschko. At the time Fury fought him he was 39. At the time Joshua fought him he was 41. Remarkably the same age as Luis Ortiz? Where is this new respect for older fighters coming from?

                      Matter fact Joshua and Fury have been fighting guys near or over 40 recently. Just recently Fury fought Sefer Seferi who wasn't even on his level. Well he was 40.

                      Joshua fought Povetkin and Takam and struggled. So whats special about 40 year old Ortiz? Is it that he was ranked #4 in the division and may be the best pure boxer in the Heavyweight division.

                      We all know whats up. Even the trolls with their fight prevention efforts. Give me old boxing where Moorer took on Foreman and got KTFO. Non of this wining and posturing we see today in order to keep the peoples hero's safe.

                      These guys need to fight Ortiz. Lets start with Whyte. He needs something to do as we wait on the B-Sample. Looks like it was shipped by Pony Express across the Atlantic.
                      There is no need for this long epistle.... Ortiz and his team should reach out to other top 10/15 fighters.
                      You can't sit at the basement and claim entitlement.

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