Deontay Wilder chasing Mayweather's record

[Larry the boss]

The Connor mcgregor fight taints it.

I can agree

[D4thincarnation]

Wilder's record is already superior.

Floyd ducked a lot of prime fighters and cherry picked old past their prime fighter.

[ShoulderRoll]

I think there is a group of fans that do think 50-0 is some kind of record. As diehard , knowledgeable boxing fans, we know this isn't the case. If Wilder and Floyd can use 50-0 to generate interest among casuals, so be it.

It is a record. No champion has ever finished a career undefeated and untied with a better record than 50-0.

[Cortez]

It is a record. No champion has ever finished a career undefeated and untied with a better record than 50-0.

That is nonsense though, you are basically giving somebody more credit for retiring and not boxing.

So Chavez could've retired at 60-0, 70-0, 80-0 and would have much superior record, but didnt and cause he was like 100-2 at one time or whatever this is somehow bad in the modern times lol

It is all nonsense though I believe because, really it matters championship level fighting and floyd is right up there as much as any great, that's the real substance.

And when you have between 20-30 championship or very high level fights even without a title, that really is like the records back in the day with guys like archie moore

You see it doesnt really matter with Moores 200 fights I think some crazy number like that, he still only had 2 title fights a year the other fights were shorter non title fights against lesser compeition, basically the high level guys dont do that today but they do however have long training camps with top pros doing rounds with them all the way through,

Similar really, they make more from the promotion than fitting in lesser fights for low money

So its all about substance not numbers and not even a loss or draw here or there matters, with that many title fights everybody looses and floyd already did but it was scored incorrectly

[ShaneMosleySr]

I don’t even like Floyd Mayweather and find this to be absolutely insane.

If Mayweather had retired after beating Diego Corrales who would have a better resume than wilder.

Wilder's record is already superior.

Floyd ducked a lot of prime fighters and cherry picked old past their prime fighter.

[D4thincarnation]

I don’t even like Floyd Mayweather and find this to be absolutely insane.

If Mayweather had retired after beating Diego Corrales who would have a better resume than wilder.

He gets minus points for the latter part of his career.

[D4thincarnation]

It is a record. No champion has ever finished a career undefeated and untied with a better record than 50-0.

Is Fraud Runweather dead?

[ShoulderRoll]

That is nonsense though, you are basically giving somebody more credit for retiring and not boxing.

So Chavez could've retired at 60-0, 70-0, 80-0 and would have much superior record, but didnt and cause he was like 100-2 at one time or whatever this is somehow bad in the modern times lol

It is all nonsense though I believe because, really it matters championship level fighting and floyd is right up there as much as any great, that's the real substance.

And when you have between 20-30 championship or very high level fights even without a title, that really is like the records back in the day with guys like archie moore

You see it doesnt really matter with Moores 200 fights I think some crazy number like that, he still only had 2 title fights a year the other fights were shorter non title fights against lesser compeition, basically the high level guys dont do that today but they do however have long training camps with top pros doing rounds with them all the way through,

Similar really, they make more from the promotion than fitting in lesser fights for low money

So its all about substance not numbers and not even a loss or draw here or there matters, with that many title fights everybody looses and floyd already did but it was scored incorrectly

I'm just explaining what the record is. It exists and Floyd has it.

When Marciano had it people made a bigger deal about it. Now that Floyd has it they want to minimize it.

But it doesn't work that way. The numbers are what the numbers are

[OnlytheTruth]

Audrey Harrison is his first “big fight”. GTFOH. Audley Harrison is a garbage fighter.

Out of all of Wilders fights. His ONLY credible opponent is Fury, first Ortiz fight , and maybe you can add the first Stiverne fight. And he pretty much lost to Fury and in the original Ortiz fight he was just about stopped.

So him chasing any record should be laughed at just as hard as we laugh at 98% of his opponents.

I think you misunderstand what I meant. I didn't mean that Audley Harrison was the first big fighter he faced, but compared to the previous 27 fights before that, Audley Harrison was a small step up in calibre.

[Marchegiano]

it literally is a record, RETIRING with the most wins WITH NO LOSSES OR DRAWS

Exactly.

There is only Blockbuster and Money.


Jimmy Barry was already beyond both before and after they retired. Barry's draws aren't even possible today. He'd fight under stipulations like "If I don't KO the bum in 4 you can call it a draw" Doesn't matter if the guy got battered, as long as he was standing in the fifth it's a draw. Which is why the fella's got ten.

Barry is also the reason we have a canvased ring these days.

58-0, clearly the lead for the 0 if we're going to count drawn fighters.

That said, Wilder's a drawn fighter. How can he even be in the race for Marciano or Mayweather's record?