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  • #41
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
    It is a record. No champion has ever finished a career undefeated and untied with a better record than 50-0.
    - -Thought he was TUE 51-0 after the demolition of debut Banty Tenshin.

    That's Two Debutantes he put down in a ferocity unmatched in boxing history!!!

    Ya musta forgot???

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Cortez View Post
      That is nonsense though, you are basically giving somebody more credit for retiring and not boxing.

      So Chavez could've retired at 60-0, 70-0, 80-0 and would have much superior record, but didnt and cause he was like 100-2 at one time or whatever this is somehow bad in the modern times lol

      It is all nonsense though I believe because, really it matters championship level fighting and floyd is right up there as much as any great, that's the real substance.

      And when you have between 20-30 championship or very high level fights even without a title, that really is like the records back in the day with guys like archie moore

      You see it doesnt really matter with Moores 200 fights I think some crazy number like that, he still only had 2 title fights a year the other fights were shorter non title fights against lesser compeition, basically the high level guys dont do that today but they do however have long training camps with top pros doing rounds with them all the way through,

      Similar really, they make more from the promotion than fitting in lesser fights for low money

      So its all about substance not numbers and not even a loss or draw here or there matters, with that many title fights everybody looses and floyd already did but it was scored incorrectly
      its not nonesense..it simply is what it is...no need to complicate it

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      • #43
        Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
        - -Thought he was TUE 51-0 after the demolition of debut Banty Tenshin.

        That's Two Debutantes he put down in a ferocity unmatched in boxing history!!!

        Ya musta forgot???
        Exhibitions obviously don't count on the official pro record. Dummy.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Marchegiano View Post
          58-0, clearly the lead for the 0 if we're going to count drawn fighters.
          The record is for unbeaten and untied. Jimmy Barry had draws.

          Originally posted by Marchegiano View Post
          That said, Wilder's a drawn fighter. How can he even be in the race for Marciano or Mayweather's record?
          Wilder can't be in the race for a record that pertains to unbeaten and untied. You are correct.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by dot.c.eh View Post
            What I thought everyone retired fighting someone who was debuting in a cross over circus match? Isn't that how you properly pass the torch?
            If McGregor taints Floyd, then Inoki taints Ali.

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            • #46
              Let me know if he catches up to Chavez' record of 89 wins and 0 loses

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              • #47
                Originally posted by OnlytheTruth View Post
                I think you misunderstand what I meant. I didn't mean that Audley Harrison was the first big fighter he faced, but compared to the previous 27 fights before that, Audley Harrison was a small step up in calibre.
                I understand, with how shhty his opponents were yea you can say it was his first step up with Harrison.

                My goodness he’s fought some quite shhty opponents. But what do we expect in this era of heavyweight boxing.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by True-Boxing-Fan View Post
                  I understand, with how shhty his opponents were yea you can say it was his first step up with Harrison.

                  My goodness he’s fought some quite shhty opponents. But what do we expect in this era of heavyweight boxing.
                  Unfortunately, the top heavyweights have set a precedent that being 6ft 6+ means that all you really need one strong attribute to be successful.

                  Wilder, his right hand.
                  Fury, good boxing IQ.
                  Joshua, good power.
                  Ruiz, fantastic speed. (Not 6ft 6+, I know but he's considered a top HW).

                  There isn't really a complete article out there but I've ****** the drum so many times that its pointless to compare historical fighters because the only reality is, if someone like Lewis or Tyson fought Wilder of Fury, they would get steamrolled.

                  Edit: Dubois and Kownacki are great prospects. They will be a World Champions, one day.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by OnlytheTruth View Post
                    Unfortunately, the top heavyweights have set a precedent that being 6ft 6+ means that all you really need one strong attribute to be successful.

                    Wilder, his right hand.
                    Fury, good boxing IQ.
                    Joshua, good power.
                    Ruiz, fantastic speed. (Not 6ft 6+, I know but he's considered a top HW).

                    There isn't really a complete article out there but I've ****** the drum so many times that its pointless to compare historical fighters because the only reality is, if someone like Lewis or Tyson fought Wilder of Fury, they would get steamrolled.

                    Edit: Dubois and Kownacki are great prospects. They will be a World Champions, one day.
                    ****** that drum since april this year Welcome to BS, you've loads more ****ing to do bud.

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                    • #50
                      Easily doable, if he keeps to the diet of mediocre HW's from just that side of his promotional outfit (PBC) then he can do it. If Top rank Fury fights him then i see Wilder losing again (This time they would probably give Fury the decision - like they did Lewis against Holyfield).

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