Comments Thread For: Fury's Trainer: Wilder's The Biggest Puncher In Boxing History

[LoadedWraps]

he gets outboxed all the time lol but then the bomb lands

Fury walks through his best shots and stops him in the rematch. Heard it here first.

[Input1914]

Stiverne and Brezeale tried it and got exposed. Wilder is too quick for the current Heavyweights. Maybe in couple of years he will slowdown a bit and get exposed.

Yep, that's the only hope. He's already 34 so that athleticism is probably starting to decline a bit but he's coming from a pretty high peak. The problem is that I think Wilder has learned how to maximize that right hand and he's likely to land it over the course of 12 rounds. I rooted for Fury in the first fight, will root for him again but if I'm honest, I think Wilder didn't completely KO Fury because he was fighting angry due to pre-fight buildup. I think Wilder will be more composed next time.

[GelfSara]

Yeah but imo Wilder had more 1 punch power. Or else Tyson woulda never lost.

You literally cant let Wilder touch you with his right hand lmao.

And Frazier was my guy!!

We will agree to disagree WRT Wilder's punching power; I do give him credit for remaining interested in and dedicated to the sport of boxing--something that was only true of Tyson through 1988.

[Input1914]

You just describe Rocky Marciano's approach to fighting. Very interesting!

I guess so. I still wonder how the fight with Povetkin would have turned out.

[KillaMane26]

We will agree to disagree WRT Wilder's punching power; I do give him credit for remaining interested in and dedicated to the sport of boxing--something that was only true of Tyson through 1988.

Im glad u brought that up... Outside of certain comments he make Wilder has been a good representative of boxing. He stays in shape, doesn't get into trouble, never see him drunk or at the strip club etc . You cant say that about every star

[KillaMane26]

Fury walks through his best shots and stops him in the rematch. Heard it here first.

Woah... I would love to bet u. He aint walking through shyt! Now getting back up is another story.

Tbh idk who wins, im leaning towads Wilder and thats just cuz of their recent competition

[whatismyname]

Why when hes only fought two top level heavies? One old one with a chin that cruiserweights dent. Why better than Foreman, young George flattening Frazier and Norton,sending Cooney to sleep, one punching Moorer. Why is the Ortiz win better than these?

He is not better then Foreman, skinny young version of Foreman destroys Wilder. But Wilder is a bigger puncher. Come on msn, everyone has been knocked in one form or another.

[Mindgames]

He is not better then Foreman, skinny young version of Foreman destroys Wilder. But Wilder is a bigger puncher. Come on msn, everyone has been knocked in one form or another.

Foreman knocked out much better people. Widlers opponents outside of Ortiz and Fury, maybe Stiverne, wouldn't have made top ten in any era. Wilder threw alot to put Ortiz, who is past prime the first time. Je couldnt take out Fury, despite two knockdowns against a guy whos been badly hurt several times, including knocked flat by a cruiserweight non punchers. So we have a good knockout against an even older Ortiz the other day and that makes Wilder a bigger puncher than Foreman? Tell me why it's better than the Moorer knockout? The Cooney knockout. How about Mike Tyson icing Tubbs with one shot, the same guy who then went the distance with Bowe. How is any of Wilders knockouts compared to Lewis knocking out Ruddock in two, Grant and Golota frozen on the canvas. How about Weavers knockout of Williams. Ruddock nearly killing Dokes. Morrison nearly killing Ruddock. How does that knockout of Ortiz top any of these? These guys mixed in world class far more than Wilder. We aint talking Spilka, Molina, Arrelola. You're comparing apples and oranges.

[Realizniguhnit]

Wilder's resume really is bad tbh in terms of numbers of fights compared with quality of opponents. So is Tyson Fury's to be fair. Look at Joshua's - he may not turn out to be as good in the end but his record so far is way better for the stage in his career he is at. Even Chisora's is better than Wilders. If both (Fury and Wilder) fighters really are that great - why haven't they fought more top level fighters?

As a boxing fan it's frustrating. This is why you have Wilder fan boys all over the forum trying to convince everyone how great Wilder is. If Wilder fought all comers - the fanboys wouldn't be needed to convince anyone.

I was talking about Mike Tyson not Tyson Fury. Mike Tyson was considered this killer on his way up then when he stepped up to the cream of the crop and started facing top competition he was taking L's left and right. Ali also fought a lot of cans.

My point was even the HOF heavyweights fought a lot of weak opposition. So to say Wilder's resume is weak just sounds like hating and nit picking. He's either fought, re matched or attempted to fight all the best HW's available.

You already have HOF heavyweights like Holyfield vouching for Wilder in saying he could have competed in any era based on his height and his great equalizer alone. He would know.

[Roberto Vasquez]

I was talking about Mike Tyson not Tyson Fury. Mike Tyson was considered this killer on his way up then when he stepped up to the cream of the crop and started facing top competition he was taking L's left and right. Ali also fought a lot of cans.

My point was even the HOF heavyweights fought a lot of weak opposition. So to say Wilder's resume is weak just sounds like hating and nit picking. He's either fought, re matched or attempted to fight all the best HW's available.

You already have HOF heavyweights like Holyfield vouching for Wilder in saying he could have competed in any era based on his height and his great equalizer alone. He would know.

Yes that's a fair point about Tyson but that era was all about unbeaten records. It was like people thought you were finished if you lost. I'm not sure why people want that era to come back?

As for Ali - he did fight a lot of cans. But he also fought the best at their best. Ali fighting peak Frazier, peak Foreman, peak Liston etc is not comparable to Wilder fighting an old Ortiz twice, an old Stiverne, and a retired Tyson Fury.