Comments Thread For: Ortiz 'Very Upset' Bayless Didn't Let Wilder Rematch Continue

[mbase1235]

Holy **** !

I didn't realize until I watched the replay of that video. Ortiz was counted out early! I really didn't put too much stock in the people who were saying that Ortiz should have been allowed to continue but after seeing that video it's clear that Ortiz was counted out early. I thought it was just Wilder haters that were saying that, but I was absolutely wrong!

Ortiz was hit exactly when there was 6 seconds left in the round and he hit the canvas when there was 5 seconds left in the round. He beat the count (and it was a very fast count by the ref). Damn, this does seem a bit shady! After seeing the replay I really believe Ortiz should have been allowed to continue. I'm a bit shocked that I missed the whole timing of the knock down and the fine details of it! I can't help but feel there was something corrupt about that.

No, Ortiz' gloves were still on the ground when the ref reached 10. The Ref said 9, and then when he reached 10, he waved it off (without actually saying 10) and Ortiz was still bent over with his gloves touching the ground. Ortiz did not beat the count, tho he tried. He's just looking for another excuse, but that's his pride. He should've avoided that right hand, or KO Wilder first. He gave a good fight tho.

[sapo13]

11 count?

so what did Ortiz want Bayless to do, Count to 11??

[Phill lynott]

Agree with Ortiz. He deserved the chance to recover with so little time left. It would be different if there was more time on the clock but the ref should be aware of these things. Not only did Wilder get the chance in their first fight but the ref called time in the beginning of round eight to let Wilder recover even more. Too big of a fight to pull the plug so suddenly and in that situation.

[ChadVegas]

Why wasn’t there anyone on the side counting as Bayless was instructing wilder to his corner? He actually was allowed extra time

Are you sure. There is a time keeper to start count as ref turns away to direct boxer to neutral corner

I will look into that

As I have mentioned previously the refs have been warned protect the boxers from themselves

Jack Reiss will never do another Wilder fight

Wilder says he wants a body w a toe tag..but really he doesnt....

Boxing doesnt either

[blitted_master]

I thought it was a good stoppage. Ortiz would have been severely injured had the fight been allowed to continue. He's very tough, which is how he got up at all. Sometimes fighters need to be saved from themselves. He has a family and is reportedly 7 million dollars richer. He can rest his head on that pile of money and the fact that he had outboxed Wilder all night up until that big punch.

[sapo13]

Maybe if you watch it again you'll see Wilder was retreating badly to the point it was very very uncharacteristic of him or his style.

It could be me but it just looked like he was hurting more than Ortiz til ko

Yea Man totally!!! wilder was on the brink of being knocked out man i dont even know how wilder was still standing he was a dead man walking untill the KO he was getting completely outclassed by ortiz wilder looked like he didnt even belong in the ring just totally overwhelmed by ortiz, Ortiz was winning on all scorecards, wilder is the worst heavyweight in the division, he is soooo lucky the referee saved his life and stopped the fight if not wilder could have been hospitalized or even worse DEATH by what ortiz was gonna do next!! Ortiz was just getting started. Wilder was about to get destroyed good thing ortiz was not allowed to continue. ORTIZ won that fight!!

[Jack Rivers]

Check your pride and ego before you enter the ring

No one likes to lose. No one likes to get beat up. No one likes to have their pride and ego bruised.

Ortiz claims he was aware when he hit the canvas and that he heard the count at 7 and started to get up.. And that the count was a little fast.

When Ortiz went down. His eyes rolled into the back of his head. He sat up reaching to his face like he wanted to grab his mouth piece. He then started to get up... He was 2 seconds shy of fully beating the count. Even when he got to his feet he looked confused.

Bottom line is the ref made the right call. Sure he could have extended the fight by ignoring the end count but Ortiz was seeing stars from that hit and with 3 deaths this year in boxing, the call was warranted.

Just admit you got knocked out. Don't be a douche and blame other factors that didn't play a roll. You got beat. So what.

[Jowara]

He gone

That old guy would have gotten really hurt bad. The stoppage was the right call. Time for some unification bouts.

[MeanestNiceGuy]

Bayless probably should've allowed him to at least go back to this corner, since the round was over any way. Now...if there was enough time for Wilder to land anything else, then I wholeheartedly agree with the stoppage.

Now....his body language on the way back to the corner would've told the story and hopefully....hopefully his corner would've made the correct decision.

I mean, he earned a right to at least be saved by the bell. I, for one felt he was done when he hit the deck, but c'mon....again, at least give the dude a chance to go back to his corner so we could hear the commotion like after round 10 of Martinez/Cotto. Lol

I just don't like the idea of the "gasping" effect that Wilder's power has on scorecards and the outcome of fights. We all know Wilder hits HARD, but whether Ortiz "would've been able to take Wilder's power or not" after the knockdown, shouldn't be a factor.

[fernandtg]

Should have gotten up by the count of 10 then.

That's what he did lol.

Good stoppage though. Some may understandably say that it was premature, but Ortiz already showed in BOTH fights that he simply can't take Wilder's right hand. The only road from there on was downhill for Ortiz.