Poll: Who Thinks the Outcome of Wilder vs. Ortiz II Was Fixed?

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  • j0zef
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    #21
    It wasn't fixed in the least, but anyone who buys into the narrative of Ortiz being a killer and dominating the fight is an imbecile. Wilder knew that Ortiz was badly outmatched and didn't throw anything to keep the farce going. Dude could have ended Ortiz in the 1st if he wanted to.

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    • Bandman
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      #22
      yeah fck it. every fight is fixed. question everything. even if the boxer dies. yep thats fixed too

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        #23
        Originally posted by j0zef
        It wasn't fixed in the least, but anyone who buys into the narrative of Ortiz being a killer and dominating the fight is an imbecile. Wilder knew that Ortiz was badly outmatched and didn't throw anything to keep the farce going. Dude could have ended Ortiz in the 1st if he wanted to.
        wrong. u sound like an imbecile. ortiz was countering wilder's right hand all night. wilder had to be cautious and get the timing and distance right. that takes time. thats why he kept pawing the jab... establishing the distance.

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        • Larry the boss
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          #24
          Seems like every fight is fixed when the fighter people hate on wins

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          • Real King Kong
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            #25
            Not sure why every fight outcome has to be “fixed” these days. I’d would like to hear Ortiz explain why he moved to his left into the ropes and directly into wilder’s right hand instead of moving to his right into the wide open centre of the ring tho.

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            • IronDanHamza
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              #26
              A fix?

              Yeah....the most violent fix ever.

              You'd have to be brain dead to think thar was a fix.

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              • Kezzer
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                #27
                Originally posted by j0zef
                It wasn't fixed in the least, but anyone who buys into the narrative of Ortiz being a killer and dominating the fight is an imbecile. Wilder knew that Ortiz was badly outmatched and didn't throw anything to keep the farce going. Dude could have ended Ortiz in the 1st if he wanted to.
                Did you watch the fight??

                Ortiz isn’t a killer and I’m not sure anyone thought that. I think majority thought Ortiz would win a few rounds (maybe 3??) then his tiredness would kick in and wilder would knock him out.

                He actually absolutely dominated to the extent where you would find it very difficult to give wilder a single round. I haven’t listened to the bias boxing voice live feed yet but I may do to see how they were scoring it, but I know mixed combat radio (which is much fairer) had it all one way. Sky sports pundits all had it 6-0 aswell, the same as me.

                I don’t think wilder could have finished him any earlier, he didn’t seem capable. But he got two hits in, one at the very end of previous round (6) as the bell went and then this one which Ortiz was finished with. I do think he should have got up - I considered this far more of a quit than Joshua as a comparison , who got up a few times before being unable to continue.

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                • j0zef
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Kezzer
                  Did you watch the fight??

                  Ortiz isn’t a killer and I’m not sure anyone thought that. I think majority thought Ortiz would win a few rounds (maybe 3??) then his tiredness would kick in and wilder would knock him out.

                  He actually absolutely dominated to the extent where you would find it very difficult to give wilder a single round. I haven’t listened to the bias boxing voice live feed yet but I may do to see how they were scoring it, but I know mixed combat radio (which is much fairer) had it all one way. Sky sports pundits all had it 6-0 aswell, the same as me.

                  I don’t think wilder could have finished him any earlier, he didn’t seem capable. But he got two hits in, one at the very end of previous round (6) as the bell went and then this one which Ortiz was finished with. I do think he should have got up - I considered this far more of a quit than Joshua as a comparison , who got up a few times before being unable to continue.
                  Yeah, I watched the fight. I commented through the RBR thread how ridiculous of a farce it is throughout. Ortiz dominated in a way that 1 is infinitely better than 0, because that's how much Wilder tried.

                  Those 2 punches you mention were the only ones that had a chance of tickling Ortiz. Look at the speed of the prior punches in the 6 rounds and compare it to the punch that KO Ortiz. If you want bonus points, take any other previous Wilder fight and compare the speed of his punches in those fights vs. that out. Wilder didn't expect to KO Ortiz that early.

                  Ortiz barely kept his gloves up throughout the whole fight even though Wilder's best shot (the one that he threw ONCE the whole fight, that ended the fight, is a straight right). This fight wasn't fixed, but Ortiz was old and slow, and Wilder extended the fight. It takes balls to do what Wilder did, but good god, Ortiz has no business in a boxing ring anymore.

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                  • A-Wolf
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                    A fix?

                    Yeah....the most violent fix ever.

                    You'd have to be brain dead to think thar was a fix.
                    ^^^^^^^^^^

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by j0zef
                      Yeah, I watched the fight. I commented through the RBR thread how ridiculous of a farce it is throughout. Ortiz dominated in a way that 1 is infinitely better than 0, because that's how much Wilder tried.

                      Those 2 punches you mention were the only ones that had a chance of tickling Ortiz. Look at the speed of the prior punches in the 6 rounds and compare it to the punch that KO Ortiz. If you want bonus points, take any other previous Wilder fight and compare the speed of his punches in those fights vs. that out. Wilder didn't expect to KO Ortiz that early.

                      Ortiz barely kept his gloves up throughout the whole fight even though Wilder's best shot (the one that he threw ONCE the whole fight, that ended the fight, is a straight right). This fight wasn't fixed, but Ortiz was old and slow, and Wilder extended the fight. It takes balls to do what Wilder did, but good god, Ortiz has no business in a boxing ring anymore.
                      It was fairly comparable to Wilder-Washington fight.

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