Comments Thread For: Fury's Trainer on Wilder's Big KO: Luis Ortiz is No Tyson Fury!

[Rusty Tromboni]

And how did those trainers become "legendary"?

They done it by doing great things with great fighters....... do not judge before Fury has even done anything yet.... he could have easily won the WBC with different judges and been lauded as the best in the world.

You will find human beings are very malleable.

It's like you're trying to sound ******.

Duran got paired with Arcel.

Valdez got paired with Clancy.

Leonard got Dundee.

Davison could be a great trainer, but that's probably a far way away. Fury is at his peak, and has his best fights yet ahead of him. Someone more established would be much more appropriate.

[Rusty Tromboni]

Then.... Why duck the rematch to run to ESPN and fight absolute no names for paychecks? If your fighter was in Wilder's head like you say, I would think an immediate 2nd fight would have been the way to go. Your fighter would be a world champ and calling all the shots.

Guess we will see come Feb. Unless one of those rematches with Wallin, Schwarz, Pianeta, or Seferi are more appealing.

LOL, Fury schooled Wilder. There's nothing to prove.

That was one of the worst decisions in Boxing history.

Wilder can't sell fights. Fury is making a fortune.

Looks like the corrupt judges did Wilder more harm than good.

[Rusty Tromboni]

Fury trained in Big Bear with Davidson for the first half of camp, then he and Davidson trained with Freddie Roach in Los Angeles for the end of camp.

Roach latter said that they came to him and told him that training in Big Bear wasn't going well, and they needed Roach's help.

Roach said that for the rematch he wants Fury to have the full camp with Roach on board. I imagine we'll get an announcement soon that Roach will be co-trainer alongside Davidson for the rematch.

This is why this site exists.

Good info, brother!

I feel bad for Fury. He's an extraordinary talent. He really is the best we've ever seen. But it seems the cards are stacked against him in achieving his potential. For starters, his uncle is a great trainer, but he runs too tight a ship, and is fully resistant to teaching his fighters offense.

Wilder, meanwhile, is less talented. But he's very, very focused. He has a camp that works for him. And the U.S. Boxing Industry is fully behind him.

If Roach can fill in properly, Fury could give us his greatest performance yet. If not, things could get ugly fast.

[petero]

Wilder vs Fury 2 should be one hell of a fight. Anything can happen in HW boxing. This is a real 50/50 fight. I believe Fury will be sharper and stronger in the rematch, it's not gonna be an easy fight for either of them.

[tokon]

You obviously have no idea what you're looking at then. Fury is levels above Ortiz in literally every department.

I'm not convinced that is actually the case. I think Fury would struggle to beat Ortiz; he certainly hadn't pursued a fight with him but high risk/low reward, I get it.

[hugh grant]

Is ortiz not elusive and has a bad defence or something? Wilder hardly threw any right hands! Fury dodged many more

[Vinnykin]

It's like you're trying to sound ******.

Duran got paired with Arcel.

Valdez got paired with Clancy.

Leonard got Dundee.

Davison could be a great trainer, but that's probably a far way away. Fury is at his peak, and has his best fights yet ahead of him. Someone more established would be much more appropriate.

******? got in an ad hominem right at the start there... well done, but there was nothing in my comment that should have triggered you so much that you have to resort to name calling.....

You would think another trainer would be more appropriate.... but you are wrong. Davison is not just a trainer to Fury, he's a friend. Davison stuck by Fury when he was obese, down-and-out. He trained Fury for nearly 2 years now, even staying with him at his house when he was depressed..... he got Fury in shape and turned his life around. This is deeper than just a fighter-trainer relationship.

Also, Fury just needs someone to keep him motivated and in-shape (happy)..... he already knows boxing inside-out.

[BoZz]

98% of people were against this fight, the 2% (wilder fan boys) were welcoming this, why? Because they don't follow boxing, they will be on the bandwagon till he wins then once he loses they gonna ride someone else. Ortiz is old, he gassed out at the 5th round even tho there were no real exchanges...wilder was walking around till the old man got tired then hit him with a punch which would do no harm to any other boxer. If he hit Ortiz with the punch he floored Fury Ortiz would of been getting suited up for his funeral. So like I said wilder's resume is a joke, the draw he got gifted against Fury is his biggest present he's ever received. Can't wait till February and hopefully this time after Fury schools him again we won't hear from his fan boys anymore.

[landotter]

LOL, Fury schooled Wilder. There's nothing to prove.

That was one of the worst decisions in Boxing history.

Wilder can't sell fights. Fury is making a fortune.

Looks like the corrupt judges did Wilder more harm than good.

Again I will ask.... Why not the immediate rematch then? Wilder was game. Fury and his team bailed. They schooled this judge-bribing poser. Complete the job, right the wrong, win all 12 of a rematch, go to Top Rank with the WBC title in tow ..

But they didn't. Just asking why. Yet to hear a real explanation.

[kafkod]

I'm not convinced that is actually the case. I think Fury would struggle to beat Ortiz; he certainly hadn't pursued a fight with him but high risk/low reward, I get it.

What would be the point of anybody pursuing a fight with an old man who was being kept away from risky fights by Haymon so they use him as cannon fodder for Wilder?