Joshua’s team doesn’t pay fair market value

[Bullrider]

wilders purses only went up because of what dazn was offering him.

That's what the clown is missing. If there was no DAZN, he will still be making $2 mil under his uncle's company.

[ShaneMosleySr]

Brezeale and Ortiz aren’t the same person.

How much did Brezeale make to fight Joshua?

I’m trying to find it. I’ll let you know when I do.

you are great at starting with your conclusion and working backwards but maybe try the other way? breazele only made a million to fight wilder. is wilder short changing opponents? you refuse to admit ortiz is making 7 million because thats what joshua offered him so i guess you just think ortiz is worth 7 mill a fight? how does ortiz's purse jump from 1 million to 7 in a year. what happened in that year? was it a popularity boom on his part? a bunch of great wins? a 7 million dollar offer from a rival network? guess we will never know. funny enough if ortiz had accpted the joshua fight you would be saying wilder short changed ortiz in the first fight by only giving him 1 million.

[daggum]

That's what the clown is missing. If there was no DAZN, he will still be making $2 mil under his uncle's company.

thats why i dont get when people get mad at dazn. yes wilder messed up and lost tens of millions of dollars by not signing with them but the mere existence of dazn netted him 35 million dollars in his last 2 fights. pretty solid raise to go from 2 mill to 20 mill without ever having to do anything. his ratings are still garbage.

[Szef]

basically what we are trying to determine in this thread is what is a persons future value and since we dont know that we can't answer that.

wilders purses only went up because of what dazn was offering him. i dont know why he is pretending otherwise. its a win win for dazn. if dazn got wilder they would like it since they think he attracts viewers(does he really...), if they make pbc spend a ton of their capital, great, less money to spend on other things for pbc.

there are 2 ways to win this race. get more viewers and more revenue until you own the market, or make your adversary bankrupt themselves so you get the market to yourself. pbc and dazn both came out of the gates trying to win the market through spending, but now they are being more coy and playing the who will bankrupt who game.

this wilder ppv flop is going to hurt pbc badly. they really need to think of something to do with wilder. 20 million a fight for no ROI? put him on normal fox? normal showtime? just pay him 20,000 and hope he doenst know how to count?

[Monzon99]

The biased agenda against Hearn and Joshua by the Wilder nut leeches is comical.

[QueensburyRules]

Wilder originally was offered $12.5 million to fight Joshua. He said no. He made more to fight Dominic Brezeale and he’s making more to fight a rematch with Luis Ortiz. (He was offered $40 million later by DAZN but wasn’t told how much Joshua would make.)

Luis Ortiz was offered $6 million to fight Joshua. He’s making $7 million to fight a rematch with Wilder.

Dillian Whyte said no to a $4 million offer to fight Joshua. He then watched as Jarrell Miller, Luis Ortiz and Andy Ruiz were offered significantly more money, despite the fact that Joshua-Whyte 2 is a much bigger fight in the UK than any of those fights would be anywhere.

Eddie Hearn claimed he offered Tyson Fury a 60-40 split which Fury rejected. Frank Warren said the offer was nowhere near 60-40.

Andy Ruiz held out on his rematch with Joshua because the purse was too low and received more money.

- -U the She said side of this?

[rickJen]

Actually, his value can be measured by the number of PPV's he's involved in. Nothing more nothing less. But then Fury was the one who sold his first one. We'll see how it goes in the Ortiz 2 fight.

Yep, it's not rocket science.
A product has no value if it doesn't sell.
However, it would still sell if you spend millions promoting it.
Or buy millions of them and make it look like it's selling.
Know what I mean?

[daggum]

The biased agenda against Hearn and Joshua by the Wilder nut leeches is comical.

they both were ****** and tried to overpay ortiz to the tune of 7 million but there could be only one winner and pbc got stuck with the hot potato. secretly they were hoping ortiz would pull out with an injury or die of old age before hte fight happened so they could save money

[Monzon99]

they both were ****** and tried to overpay ortiz to the tune of 7 million but there could be only one winner and pbc got stuck with the hot potato. secretly they were hoping ortiz would pull out with an injury or die of old age before hte fight happened so they could save money

Fairy tales. Ortiz has zero chance to do anything with Joshua and Haymon knows it. That's why he protected Ortiz from Joshua, he needs Ortiz to dive again for Wilder. After Ortiz dives for Wilder again Haymon then may send him to try to take Joshua's newly rewon belts.

Haymon had zero confidence to send Ortiz to try to beat AJ earlier this year, he needed his Cuban patsy diver for Wilder first.

[Inspired]

1) Wilder was offered $12.5m right after he only earnt $2m vs ortiz.
2) Ortiz was offered $6m when his highest payday was $500k
3) Wilder and Ortiz have been paid more because they need to justify the demands they'll later make from AJ.
4) Don't forget Wilder stated many times that Ortiz and Fury are better than AJ. So why does he contradict himself by demanding more money from AJ? keep in mind here that Wilder isn't even a ppv star. He's never done over 350k ppv buys and he will have done 2-3 ppv fights in 42 fights.
4) Furthermore, Ortiz wasn't JUST offered $6m, he was offered $6m+the chance to become unified champion.
5) Wilder has been protected by boxing 39 bums. He's simply beaten a really old Ortiz after he failed a medical with high bloodpressure. wilder has publicly acknowledged that he knows ortiz is older than his stated age. Wilder needed to cheat heavily in their fight and landed many illegal punches that would kill most men.
After that he's fought a 50% Tyson Fury and LOST.
People who obviously know more about the HW division know that Wilder is a fraud..and he doesn't hold a candle to AJ despite that guy losing badly to Ruiz. AJ has boxed far better opponents..and you can't count Tyson because that was not the real Tyson Fury, that was a 50% Fury anyway.
6) Ortiz was offered $7m because what other choice does pbc have? Fury, AJ, Ruiz are out of the question and Wilder would be a laughing stock.
The truth is, Wilder is masking his resume again by boxing ortiz then hoping for 2 more Fury fights before Whyte gets a mandatory spot (if he even does) or he fights AJ.
The other big names in the division, the likes of Parker, Joe Joyce, Ajagba, Hrgovic, Yoka, Usyk, Hunter and of course Daniel Dubois, are too risky for Wilder. So what other choice but to pay ortiz what he's demanding?