Ali v. Wilder

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Wilder doesn't throw enough jabs to defeat Ali but it would be exciting in some spots. Ali a bit overatted ,he wasn't that hard to hit as most make him . I'd bet Ali gets a UD over Wilder I cant see this being a Foreman type fight because wilder is not a volume aggressive puncher and give ali way to much time to plan out tactics.

[Toffee]

Anytime Wilder fights a decent skilled boxer it plays out the same.

He either lands a huge shot or he loses.

Makes him exciting. If he fights some decent boxers.

[meat_abstract]

You know, you make a great point here and I agree 100%.

I’ve always thought that that sentiment rings true for most pure boxers — they don’t like to face other pure boxers.

Mayweather fared quite well against KO artists and swarmers (although he had some close fights like Castillo I and Maidana I), but I noticed there weren’t many fights with guys with great jabs and masterful defense. I’m not saying he ducked anyone, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he knew that was riskier for him. Although different generations, I would have loved to see him fight Pernell Whitaker in a time machine — that would have been fight of the century for me.

This is why Ray Leonard and Tommy Hearns were both each other's nightmare - they were both in there trying to do basically the same thing. Huge amount of metal pressure - trying to beat the other guy to the punch knowing he's going to counter you.

I am one of the those people who thinks Mayweather's resume is astonishingly thin given the amount of esteem he's held in. To say he "ducked" anybody doesn't even really make sense - he moved between divisions and picked fights he could win, when he could win them. From career management point of view, he was better than anyone - he made a gazillion dollars and still has all his brain cells. But the trade-off for boxing fans was no Pacqiauo fight till they were both old, no fight with Trinidad, Wright, etc., etc. Sure, he never lost. But here's something Ali didn't do: go to jail for beating his wife.

[Legends456]

This is why Ray Leonard and Tommy Hearns were both each other's nightmare - they were both in there trying to do basically the same thing. Huge amount of metal pressure - trying to beat the other guy to the punch knowing he's going to counter you.

I am one of the those people who thinks Mayweather's resume is astonishingly thin given the amount of esteem he's held in. To say he "ducked" anybody doesn't even really make sense - he moved between divisions and picked fights he could win, when he could win them. From career management point of view, he was better than anyone - he made a gazillion dollars and still has all his brain cells. But the trade-off for boxing fans was no Pacqiauo fight till they were both old, no fight with Trinidad, Wright, etc., etc. Sure, he never lost. But here's something Ali didn't do: go to jail for beating his wife.

Agreed. The gf beating thing is what kept me from being one of his fans. Still enjoyed watching him fight tho.

[Tyistall]

Dumbest thread I've seen in a while. Wilder has 2 DECENT guys on his record while Ali fought and beat the best guys in 2 decades. Including Foreman when most thought Foreman was more unbeatable than Tyson. I can name 20 guys that Ali beat, that could beat Wilder hahahaha

[Joe Beamish]

Fury made Wilder look ******; Ali would have done this while also hurting him, and eventually knocking him out.