RANKING EACH COUNTRY BY NUMBER OF WORLD CHAMPIONS It HAS!!

[ShaneMosleySr]

Thank you! I’ve never understood why people brag about being from a populated country.

Country	Population(millions)	#Pro Boxers(apx)	Current Titlists
USA	330	3150	18
Mexico	128	2750	9
Japan	127	1250	5
United Kingdom	68	1000	4
Phillipines	108	780	3
Russia	146	430	2
France	65	490	2
Ukraine	44	260	2
South Africa	59	450	2
Thailand	70	400	2
Cuba	11	50	1
Latvia	2	90	1
Kazakhstan	19	80	1
Ghana	30	170	1
Nicaragua	7	220	1

Pulled the pro boxer #s from Boxrec by running a P4P by each country, so it's only fighters who have fought within the last year cos they drop em off the active list after that.

Got the population figures from here:

https://www.worldometers.info/geography/alphabetical-list-of-countries/

I can do a breakdown of titles/population or titles/active pros too if anyone wants.

[THEFRESHBRAWLER]

American fighters are just too dominant and boxing is nowhere near as popular in America like it was 20yrs ago. It’s no hard feelings towards any of the other countries. It’s just the truth.

[Born X Raised]

Check my list above. I couldn't break down the active fighters numbers anyway, cos Boxrec only lists nationality for the UK, not it's component countries. Basically what the numbers show is that there's a strong correlation between the number of professional fighters from a country and the number of titlists they have. If you figure in variability over time (which is why I've put up the links to World Champion lists going back 5 years) you'd probably find the relationship was even stronger, but someone else can pull the numbers together if they really care enough.

I call bulls**t. The U.K. and Mexico numbers are extremely skewed due to having about 80% of their boxers that are “bums” that just fight to lose as a side job for extra money.

The active boxers of other countries are literally the best they have to offer.

The U.S. and Mexico are always number 1 and 2 in boxing, deal with it.

[ShoulderRoll]

Nice! You should update this thread every 3 months or so.

The cold, hard numbers just confirm what I'm always bragging about: North America runs boxing.

[kafkod]

Definitely not!

[Citizen Koba]

Country	Pop(mil)	#Boxers	Titlists	Titles	Titlists/boxer	Titles/boxer	Titlists/pop	Boxers/Pop
USA	330	3150	18	25	0.0057	0.0079	0.0545	9.5
Mexico	128	2750	9	9	0.0033	0.0033	0.0703	21.5
Japan	127	1250	5	6	0.004	0.0048	0.0394	9.8
UnitedKingdom	68	1000	5	6	0.005	0.006	0.0735	14.7
Phillipines	108	780	3	3	0.0038	0.0038	0.0278	7.2
Russia	146	430	2	3	0.0047	0.007	0.0137	2.9
France	65	490	2	2	0.0041	0.0041	0.0308	7.5
Ukraine	44	260	2	3	0.0077	0.0115	0.0455	5.9
South Africa	59	450	2	2	0.0044	0.0044	0.0339	7.6
Thailand	70	400	2	2	0.005	0.005	0.0286	5.7
Cuba	11	50	1	1	0.02	0.02	0.0909	4.5
Latvia	2	90	1	1	0.0111	0.0111	0.5	45
Kazakhstan	19	80	1	1	0.0125	0.0125	0.0526	4.2
Ghana	30	170	1	1	0.0059	0.0059	0.0333	5.7
Nicaragua	7	220	1	1	0.0045	0.0045	0.1429	31.4

Here ya go !WAR MEXICO!. Interesting figures in the final column - pro boxers/million population. Mexico and surprisingly UK have a lot of boxers per capita. Unsurprisingly the former Soviet countries (and Cuba) have relatively few, with their success mainly coming through a few elite amateurs turning pro.

[Citizen Koba]

I call bulls**t. The U.K. and Mexico numbers are extremely skewed due to having about 80% of their boxers that are “bums” that just fight to lose as a side job for extra money.

The active boxers of other countries are literally the best they have to offer.

The U.S. and Mexico are always number 1 and 2 in boxing, deal with it.

You do get that discounting the 'journeymen' from these countries improves their ratios of fighters to titles held right?... Which is kinda the metric you might use to determine which country has the best fighters per capita/pro boxer..

You quite sure you want to go down that path, man...?


EDIT: But yeah, absolutely there is a very valid point in there, countries like the Ukraine or Russia are very top heavy. Although now more fighters are starting out in the pro Ranks or having relatively short Ammy careers, until quite recently only top level amateurs were turning pro.

I'm just presenting the data, man, I ain't some kinda nationalist trying to push one country as being 'better' than another, nor am I gonna tell you how you need to interpret it. The observation I made is based on the figures I've provided, but you're quite entitled to read into 'em anything that suits your fancy. All I'm pointing out is that it's hardly surprising the US and Mexico appear dominant when they have so many more pro fighters than everywhere else. It's also worth noting that this is just a snapshot and it's changing all the time. A few years ago the UK actually had more titles and titlists that the US or Mexico. Go back a few months Ukraine had Usyk and Gvozdyk which meant they were punching way over their weight for the reasons already mentioned.

But whilst we're here we might want to ask what effect having the most money tied in the sport and being the home of sanctioning bodies plays in the opportunities for getting title shots.

[ruedboy]

Thank you! I’ve never understood why people brag about being from a populated country.

Floyd is the Special Boxing Adviser to China with it's 1.38 Billion people.
Can you imagine when all those Chinese Floyd's get to the Olympics stylin the "Philly Shell"?
The rest of the world gonna be velly, velly sorry.

[USMCer]

The GOATs of Boxing by State, Region, Country

Link - https://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=213934


... or...


GOAT "Starting Lineups" by Country, State, etc (GOAT by Divisions)

Link - https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=818522




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[kafkod]

Check my list above. I couldn't break down the active fighters numbers anyway, cos Boxrec only lists nationality for the UK, not it's component countries. Basically what the numbers show is that there's a strong correlation between the number of professional fighters from a country and the number of titlists they have. If you figure in variability over time (which is why I've put up the links to World Champion lists going back 5 years) you'd probably find the relationship was even stronger, but someone else can pull the numbers together if they really care enough.

Good work!