PBC Boxers are officially PAWNS, Company Men, whoring for Nerworks

[Marchegiano]

MMA started before the UFC. Pride was much bigger than the UFC at first, and people used to complain about their fighters not competing vs each other. Don't you remember the whole Brock Lesnar vs Fedor situation?

1993 is before 1997

Also, quit looking at gate, means nothing, Pride still has bigger gates than UFC ever did, attendance wise. Cost of ticket wise it isn't even close.

UFC started first and was bigger, you're just mistaken. I understand why, Pride put on a much better show but they simply were not first nor were they bigger.


Edit- attendance ATM:

26Pride ShockwaveDynamite!August 28, 2002Tokyo National Stadiumokyo, Japan 91,107

496UFC 243:Whittakervs.AdesanyaOct 5, 2019Marvel StadiumMelbourne, Australia 57,127


But the UFC bought Pride....how does that make sense if Pride's numbers are actually meaningful? UFC couldn't, today, get but about half what Pride got in asses in seats, but, they could buy Pride....because free and cheap tickets does not make MMA fans it makes opportunists looking for a show.

[Thuglife Nelo]

I don’t but they don’t have the same history as boxing. No one is going to come in and use the white model on a sport that is over 100 years old.

If they do it with including every boxers then fans should support it down to a tee. What they are trying to achieve is segregation. And that is something every boxing fan should hope they fail on.

seeing how good Crawford is in ''real life'' and his strap or what he has accomplished, be it not much by some, but it feels surreal hearing a Fox Sports Executive justify and acknowledge why don't need to mention Crawford and his WBO, or that Fox does not recognize the WBO.

[bballchump11]

I don’t but they don’t have the same history as boxing. No one is going to come in and use the white model on a sport that is over 100 years old.

If they do it with including every boxers then fans should support it down to a tee. What they are trying to achieve is segregation. And that is something every boxing fan should hope they fail on.

I don't agree with what they're doing, but the UFC started and still works with segregation. Then they got the most attention and promotion, grew their brand and attracted the best fighters there while buying smaller companies.

Hypothetically the PBC can continue building their brand and gaining the most viewers. Kill the competition and acquiring their talent. Forcing top fighters outside of their brand to join them and become there UFC.

[bballchump11]

1993 is before 1997

Also, quit looking at gate, means nothing, Pride still has bigger gates than UFC ever did, attendance wise. Cost of ticket wise it isn't even close.

UFC started first and was bigger, you're just mistaken. I understand why, Pride put on a much better show but they simply were not first nor were they bigger.


Edit- attendance ATM:

26Pride ShockwaveDynamite!August 28, 2002Tokyo National Stadiumokyo, Japan 91,107

496UFC 243:Whittakervs.AdesanyaOct 5, 2019Marvel StadiumMelbourne, Australia 57,127


But the UFC bought Pride....how does that make sense if Pride's numbers are actually meaningful? UFC couldn't, today, get but about half what Pride got in asses in seats, but, they could buy Pride....because free and cheap tickets does not make MMA fans it makes opportunists looking for a show.

Pride in the early 2000's had more top fighters and bigger gates than the UFC. The UFC grew and expanded later on to be able to buy the UFC.

I don't know the exact start dates of each, but my point remains overall.

[Thuglife Nelo]

I don't agree with what they're doing, but the UFC started and still works with segregation. Then they got the most attention and promotion, grew their brand and attracted the best fighters there while buying smaller companies.

Hypothetically the PBC can continue building their brand and gaining the most viewers. Kill the competition and acquiring their talent. Forcing top fighters outside of their brand to join them and become there UFC.

Haymon is trying to secure himself away from the dirty organizations in which he has also been a part of. By prototyping a PBC belt and its success, what will be the need of other organizations? PBC has acknowledged that not crossing the street and staying internal - openly - means they don't need other organizations. Haymon just a betch cause he don't have Crawford.

[Marchegiano]

Pride in the early 2000's had more top fighters and bigger gates than the UFC. The UFC grew and expanded later on to be able to buy the UFC.

I don't know the exact start dates of each, but my point remains overall.

Fair enough bud.

[Thuglife Nelo]

1993 is before 1997

Also, quit looking at gate, means nothing, Pride still has bigger gates than UFC ever did, attendance wise. Cost of ticket wise it isn't even close.

UFC started first and was bigger, you're just mistaken. I understand why, Pride put on a much better show but they simply were not first nor were they bigger.


Edit- attendance ATM:

26Pride ShockwaveDynamite!August 28, 2002Tokyo National Stadiumokyo, Japan 91,107

496UFC 243:Whittakervs.AdesanyaOct 5, 2019Marvel StadiumMelbourne, Australia 57,127


But the UFC bought Pride....how does that make sense if Pride's numbers are actually meaningful? UFC couldn't, today, get but about half what Pride got in asses in seats, but, they could buy Pride....because free and cheap tickets does not make MMA fans it makes opportunists looking for a show.

White and Haymon aren't doing anything original. If anything a JOINT venture of MMA and Boxing under PBC is copying what One CHampionship already does. One Championship been doing cage, open ring, Kickboxing and MMA variances. Many don't know that.

[Marchegiano]

White and Haymon aren't doing anything original. If anything a JOINT venture of MMA and Boxing under PBC is copying what One CHampionship already does. One Championship been doing cage, open ring, Kickboxing and MMA variances. Many don't know that.

I ****in' love One, just seen vera get ktfo by that Burmese kid.

Is he a x3 champ now?

[THEFRESHBRAWLER]

Don’t watch it then.

[kafkod]

Interesting. Complaining about tacky commercialism just after praising DAZN for ks1 v Paul..

Also can’t take these 2 clowns seriously when they complain about loyalty to a network. I mean these guys might literally be on the DAZN payroll.

You can always tell when haymon makes the competition nervous.

Relax ladies, haymon and white working together just might elevate the sport a bit by reducing the power of the very corrupt sanctioning bodies.

Most fans want to see boxing unite under 1 banner like ufc because that would end the political divides.

LOL, nervous. Personally i think the PBC are embarrassing themselves infront of the worlds eyes. They losing respect daily. You think they are in a strong position to take over UFC style? LOL, they are committing business suicide. its guna take a bit of time to bleed out but bleed out they will. Told you ages ago, the PBC is becoming a cult. And Haymon is a massive cult.

If their goal is to unite boxing then am all for it, but their plan of segregation is plain to see, just by going by the interview which was conducted by Chris Mannix on the FOX/PBC head. I don’t think they are here to help boxing at all.

The PBC are just copying Dana White.

I don’t but they don’t have the same history as boxing. No one is going to come in and use the white model on a sport that is over 100 years old.

If they do it with including every boxers then fans should support it down to a tee. What they are trying to achieve is segregation. And that is something every boxing fan should hope they fail on.

Fighters competing only on shows promoted by their own promoter, and fighting only for "world titles" created by their own promoter, has made MMA a much more divided sport than boxing.

In MMA, you never see unification fights between, eg, the UFC HW champion and the Bellator HW champion. If they wanted to fight each other, one or the other would have to give up his title, buy out his contract - if he could - and sign with the other guy's promoter.

I hope and pray we never see that situation in boxing. Multiple sanctioning organisation world titles is bad enough, but at least they are open to all licensed fighters. Multiple promotional company world titles, open only to fighters who compete exclusively under that banner, would be a worse situation by far.

Imagine if we had a PBC world champion, a Matchroom World Champion, Top Rank World Champion, a Golden Boy World Champion, a K2 World Champion, etc, etc ... and none of them even eligible to fight each other.

That's what the "UFC model" would mean in boxing. It's a bad model for the sport!