Ran into Victor Ortiz at the Cheese Cake Factory

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  • elfag
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    #41
    Originally posted by Juicy J
    I'd like to see him vs. the following fighters:

    Amir Khan
    Adrien Broner
    Robert Guerrero

    yeah he could fight those guys cause they are shot too.

    broner would *** him up though. Hes big with a solid chin. Ortiz's chin has been cracked.

    Khan probably lights him up too. Khan atleast has been active.

    Guerrero is shot as *** that is the only even match up.

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      #42
      Originally posted by tito_bandito
      He can probably land a Terrence Crawford fight. Ortiz is better than Crawford’s “best win” which most consider is Horn. Crawford will give any of the bottom 20 welterweights a shot.
      Originally posted by paulf
      He's a PBC fighter.
      Which is unfortunate, because tito_bandito is spot on. Crawford would damn near immediately accept that fight if Ortiz wasn't on "the other side of the street".

      And such a fight would be a fairly decent test. Because Ortiz only quit against guys who were able to land KO-type shots on him. Crawford's accumulation punching would have to frustrate Ortiz into quitting, which I've never seen him. Headbutt, yes. Quit out of frustration? Nah.

      And if Victor Ortiz took Crawford the distance - there's just NO. DAMN. WAY. He's P4P.

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        #43
        This kid has no heart and should quit before he gets seriously hurt.

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          #44
          Originally posted by revelated
          Which is unfortunate, because tito_bandito is spot on. Crawford would damn near immediately accept that fight if Ortiz wasn't on "the other side of the street".

          And such a fight would be a fairly decent test. Because Ortiz only quit against guys who were able to land KO-type shots on him. Crawford's accumulation punching would have to frustrate Ortiz into quitting, which I've never seen him. Headbutt, yes. Quit out of frustration? Nah.

          And if Victor Ortiz took Crawford the distance - there's just NO. DAMN. WAY. He's P4P.
          Not to mention Ortiz would be the hardest puncher that Crawford has ever face. I don’t think PBC would mind throwing Ortiz in a PPV fight. Roach might even be up to it to see how Crawford would fair against his other southpaw, Pacquiao.
          Last edited by tito_bandito; 11-18-2019, 06:23 PM.

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            #45
            You guys seem to be forgetting that Ortiz is pretty shot, man. Gun-shy, still has his legs but half-commits to everything. A Crawford fight would be the same thing as the Khan fight; a lot of hype of Ortiz being Crawford's biggest challenge, and then Victor getting KTFO without landing anything but a few jabs.

            Wouldn't be surprised to see Ortiz as Errol Spence's comeback fight.

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            • daggum
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              #46
              luis ortiz ran into a cheesecake factory.

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                #47
                Originally posted by paulf
                You guys seem to be forgetting that Ortiz is pretty shot, man. Gun-shy, still has his legs but half-commits to everything. A Crawford fight would be the same thing as the Khan fight; a lot of hype of Ortiz being Crawford's biggest challenge, and then Victor getting KTFO without landing anything but a few jabs.

                Wouldn't be surprised to see Ortiz as Errol Spence's comeback fight.

                Ortiz has been aggressive in the first half of every fight he's had. He starts to quit when a KO style blow is landed on the jaw. Crawford has no such power.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Mr. 29K
                  I remember when he was blowing up. I honestly thought he was gonna be the next thang until he met Chino. Chino literally took his soul.
                  I know he did for a good while, but nobody can say the Ortiz who got up against Berto in their first fight, was soulless. It was a magnificent fight actually and I remember how elated Manny Steward was with the fight too

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Juicy J
                    I'd like to see him vs. the following fighters:

                    Amir Khan
                    Adrien Broner
                    Robert Guerrero
                    All in on all those dudes... I'd add Chino Collazo and Josesito to that list too...the redemption tour ahhaha

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                    • soul_survivor
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by extracurRICular
                      I was having dinner with my fam and boom there he was with his fam... we struck up a convo and he told me the following
                      • He is no longer with Knuckleheads gym and is on the outs with Coach Hoss....
                      • He will no longer finance "his" gym (Knuckleheads) and let others take credit for it like it belongs to them. So he pulled out completely and has left Ventura county...
                      • He is now with Freddy Roach and is mounting a comeback
                      • He is in the final stages of clearing the **** allegations and that should be over soon
                      • He is coming back for all the belts.......


                      Do you think Vic O is done or does he have one more run in him???
                      What would be the point of a second run? Was there even a first run?

                      Ortiz had the physicality and talent to be a top star but he always lacked heart. We all saw it in the Maidana fight and from then on there was no turning back.

                      His career will be defined by one sentence, "I shouldn't be getting hit like that".

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