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  • kafkod
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    #41
    Originally posted by davefromvancouv
    Ruiz was desperate for a shot, so he took it. But this is why Hearn fails to make the big fights. He offers these ridiculously skewed contracts so that even if you beat Joshua, you still only get a flat fee, while he and Joshua snag the bulk of the proceeds. In this case, he and Joshua make over $40 million each, while Ruiz only gets $10 million.

    You have no problem with Eddie Hearn making more than the winner of the first fight?
    Eddie Hearn fails to make big fights .. now that's funny! If Haymon had as much initiative and imagination as Hearn, Wilder would be a billionaire by now!

    I have no idea how much Eddie himself is making from the rematch, and I couldn't care less. Andy Ruiz will make more money from his 2 fights with AJ than he could have dreamed of making from his next 10 with Haymon and PBC. And if he wins the rematch he's a global star and free to defend his 3 belts wherever he likes for even more money.

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      #42
      Originally posted by davefromvancouv
      Wilder fights are not exciting??? What the hell are you talking about??? How many more highlight reel knockouts do you need? And during his reign, his opponents have all been ranked in the top 10...
      Molina ranked 37th when Wilder fought him. DuHaupus 34th. Szpilka 24th. Arreola 43rd. Wahington 43rd and Stiverne was unranked for the rematch. You were saying??..

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        #43
        this fight sucks

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          #44
          Originally posted by kafkod
          Eddie Hearn fails to make big fights .. now that's funny! If Haymon had as much initiative and imagination as Hearn, Wilder would be a billionaire by now!

          I have no idea how much Eddie himself is making from the rematch, and I couldn't care less. Andy Ruiz will make more money from his 2 fights with AJ than he could have dreamed of making from his next 10 with Haymon and PBC. And if he wins the rematch he's a global star and free to defend his 3 belts wherever he likes for even more money.
          Why do you care about what Joshua makes, but not Hearn? As I said, Ruiz was desperate so he signed the contract, fully realizing he was being taken advantage of. Tyson Fury said it best (TIMESTAMPED):

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            #45
            Originally posted by Tyistall
            Molina ranked 37th when Wilder fought him. DuHaupus 34th. Szpilka 24th. Arreola 43rd. Wahington 43rd and Stiverne was unranked for the rematch. You were saying??..
            At the time they fought the WBC champion, Molina, Duhaupas, Szpilka, Arreola and Stiverne were fighters ranked in the top 10-15. If you look at their ranking now, they would obviously be ranked much lower.

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              #46
              Originally posted by davefromvancouv
              Why do you care about what Joshua makes, but not Hearn? As I said, Ruiz was desperate so he signed the contract, fully realizing he was being taken advantage of.
              Ruiz was desperate?

              That's strange, because all I was reading here before the rematch was signed was crazy stuff about Hearn being desperate because Haymon had played him for a fool, the contract had a loophole, A side Andy and Uncle Al were calling the shots, blah blah blah ...

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                #47
                Originally posted by kafkod
                Ruiz was desperate?

                That's strange, because all I was reading here before the rematch was signed was crazy stuff about Hearn being desperate because Haymon had played him for a fool, the contract had a loophole, A side Andy and Uncle Al were calling the shots, blah blah blah ...

                This isn't about Haymon. This is about Hearn making the same amount of money as the loser of the first fight and 4 times more than the winner. Most people would see this as objectionable: a way to deprive Ruiz of his fair share. Hearn gets the $40 million site fee, Joshua pockets $40 million, and Ruiz only gets $10 million.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by davefromvancouv
                  This isn't about Haymon. This is about Hearn making the same amount of money as the loser of the first fight and 4 times more than the winner. Most people would see this as objectionable: a way to deprive Ruiz of his fair share. Hearn gets the $40 million site fee, Joshua pockets $40 million, and Ruiz only gets $10 million.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by davefromvancouv
                    At the time they fought the WBC champion, Molina, Duhaupas, Szpilka, Arreola and Stiverne were fighters ranked in the top 10-15. If you look at their ranking now, they would obviously be ranked much lower.
                    I just gave you the rankings when they fought Wilder. And Molina was NEVER in the top 15 hahaha. You are reaching and missing

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Tyistall
                      I just gave you the rankings when they fought Wilder. And Molina was NEVER in the top 15 hahaha. You are reaching and missing
                      No. You didn't.

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