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  • ShaneMosleySr
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    #31
    Ortiz is making at least $7 million for the Wilder rematch per Coppinger.

    Originally posted by factsarenice
    Obviously math wasn't your subject.
    Ortiz is an old man with heart problems that can't draw flies. AJ offered the old man 6 million and said no to fight Wilder for 3.


    Buy a calculator.

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    • slimPickings
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      #32
      looking forward to this fight.

      Ortiz will be a live d0g for as long as it lasts.

      YOU , Mr. Troll will also be watching with interest!!

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      • Tyistall
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        #33
        Originally posted by davefromvancouv
        True boxing fans realize that Wilder-Ortiz II is a great fight. Casual fans are intrigued because Wilder is a knockout specialist. His fights are always exciting and the arenas are always full. If you haven't seen him fight in real time, you're missing out on something special...
        True boxing fans know that this is an unnecessary, farce of a rematch. Casual fans aren't interested and will probably watch whatever MMA or UFC fight is on that weekend. His fights are not exciting because he fights bums, and he will never fight a real challenger or a unification fight. I've seen him fight almost all of his fights, which is why I am calling a spade, a spade. The arena is NEVER full just like the arena will not be full for this fight either. Don't believe me? Go check the tickets right now hahah. They are actually lowering the prices on them to try to make the arena be fuller. Even then, it won't be

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        • Tyistall
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          #34
          Originally posted by Redd Foxx
          It's actually a good fight. It's just not the fight anyone wants to see right now so no one, including myself, cares.
          Ortiz is older, slower and he looked past it in his last fight. This will be Wilder vs Stiverne II all over again. If Wilder had the balls to face someone good in his career, outside of Ortiz and Fury, then I'd give him props. Or I would at least give him a pass on fighting Ortiz twice. But when you look at his resume, and then see that he's fighting this dude again instead of about 28 guys of the top 30, you see what he is doing. Ducking anyone would has a real chance of beating him. He will never fight Whyte, AJ, DuBois, Ajagba, Joyce or most of the top 30. He will make up an excuse every time. THAT'S why I cannot support this farce of a rematch.

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          • Tyistall
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            #35
            Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
            Ortiz is making at least $7 million for the Wilder rematch per Coppinger.
            By all means, explain the math on Ortiz getting 7 million in this fight hahahaha. Because, that would mean that Wilder is getting more than Canelo and AJ for this fight. Which is utter nonsense. Showtime refused to air the fight because they knew it would do ridiculously low PPV numbers. The tickets are not selling and they are even lowering the prices to make them sell, which they still aren't. Wilder is not even the main event by himself hahah. He's a co-main event. So how does all of that equal Ortiz getting 7 million?

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            • davefromvancouv
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              #36
              Originally posted by factsarenice
              Obviously math wasn't your subject.
              Ortiz is an old man with heart problems that can't draw flies. AJ offered the old man 6 million and said no to fight Wilder for 3.


              Buy a calculator.
              Luis Ortiz offered $5 million to fight Joshua:
              Luis Ortiz’s handlers apparently want at the absolute least what DAZN and Eddie Hearn were willing to pay Jarrell Miller for Ortiz to challenge Anthony Joshua on June 1. And probably then some. Multiple sources have informed BoxingScene.com that Ortiz’s representatives turned down Hearn’s $5 million offer for Ortiz to step in on what’s now five weeks’ notice for Miller. They asked for $10 million, $3.5 million more than what would’ve been Miller’s package for the fight had the boisterous Brooklyn contender not tested positive for multiple performance-enhancing drugs late in March.


              Luis Ortiz guaranteed in an excess of $7 million for the Wilder rematch:
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              • davefromvancouv
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                #37
                Originally posted by OldTerry
                I hope Ruiz wins the rematch and goes on to a mega-dollar fight with Wilder. If Ruiz loses to Joshua I hope he has a lucrative rematch clause.
                Either way, I'd love to see Wilder-Ruiz, Wilder-Joshua, Ruiz-Ortiz and Joshua-Ortiz. But if Ruiz wins, it's a clearer path to undisputed because he'll likely file for exceptions with the WBO and IBF to skip their mandatories. If Joshua wins, it's back to business as usual, offering flat fees for the big fights while he and Hearn rake in the rest.

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                • davefromvancouv
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by kafkod
                  Al Haymon is too smart for Eddie ***** doe.

                  Al knows how to get around a rematch clause. He'll find loopholes in dumb Eddie's contract and AJ will have to fight A Side Andy in the US for whatever Haymon wants to give him, or go kick rocks!
                  Ruiz was desperate for a shot, so he took it. But this is why Hearn fails to make the big fights. He offers these ridiculously skewed contracts so that even if you beat Joshua, you still only get a flat fee, while he and Joshua snag the bulk of the proceeds. In this case, he and Joshua make over $40 million each, while Ruiz only gets $10 million.

                  You have no problem with Eddie Hearn making more than the winner of the first fight?

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                  • davefromvancouv
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Tyistall
                    True boxing fans know that this is an unnecessary, farce of a rematch. Casual fans aren't interested and will probably watch whatever MMA or UFC fight is on that weekend. His fights are not exciting because he fights bums, and he will never fight a real challenger or a unification fight. I've seen him fight almost all of his fights, which is why I am calling a spade, a spade. The arena is NEVER full just like the arena will not be full for this fight either. Don't believe me? Go check the tickets right now hahah. They are actually lowering the prices on them to try to make the arena be fuller. Even then, it won't be
                    Wilder fights are not exciting??? What the hell are you talking about??? How many more highlight reel knockouts do you need? And during his reign, his opponents have all been ranked in the top 10...

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
                      By Cliff Rold - Fans of a certain age in the US are seeing something the newer generation is really getting to experience for the first time. The emergence of Deontay Wilder as more than just a beltholder, as a genuine star, has cast a spotlight on the division that in the US market had been somewhat missing. There is boxing, and then there are...
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