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  • Boxing_1013
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    #41
    Originally posted by FredRekk
    Well PAC shouldn’t have to be mentioned, dudes already a certified hof’er and living legend with skulls on hanging on his mantle. So to compare his resume to other active boxers wouldn’t be fare.

    Canelo
    Thurman
    GGG
    Originally posted by Blue54
    1 Manny Pacquiao
    2 Canelo
    3 Usyk
    4 Shawn Porter
    5 John Pascal
    6 Roman Gonzalez
    7 Nonito Donaire
    8 Sergey Kovalev
    9 Gennady Golokvin
    10 Josh Warrington
    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
    People naming Golovkin? Pure delusion.
    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
    its not people... its that fkn moron again

    thinks that Golovkin has a better resume than Canelo.....


    thinks that Golovkin has faced more quality opposition than almost any other fighter in history.....


    thinks that Golovkin has 5-6 'great' wins..... but cannot even name 1 of those 'great' wins


    thinks that Murray Lemieux Monroe and Vanes, are better wins for Golovkin..... than Lara Cotto Trout and Mosley, are for Canelo.....
    Not that it really matters...but looks like 2 of the other 3 people or so who even responded in the thread with a list have GGG on theirs lol.

    And it doesn't really matter because to be honest anyone who doesn't have GGG as a top 5 active resume is either 1) very new to/unknowledgeable about boxing 2) probably a little racist.

    There's just no way you can compare his wins/resume/performances vs other current guys and not say he is at least top 5 in resume...even if you have nightmares about him and hate him like a couple of you fellas do

    I'll let you three guys figure out which one of those two reasons you are though I know what Robbie and Time are for sure...that would be number 2 ...so your comments about boxing are irrelevant to me lol...you're so consumed in race that you can't even keep it real about a fighter...sad life I bet.

    Hope you guys have a great day though!!

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    • Boxing_1013
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      #42
      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
      People naming Golovkin? Pure delusion.
      Originally posted by KillaMane26
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      Originally posted by aboutfkntime
      its not people... its that fkn moron again



      thinks that Golovkin has a better resume than Canelo.....


      thinks that Golovkin has faced more quality opposition than almost any other fighter in history.....


      thinks that Golovkin has 5-6 'great' wins..... but cannot even name 1 of those 'great' wins


      thinks that Murray Lemieux Monroe and Vanes, are better wins for Golovkin..... than Lara Cotto Trout and Mosley, are for Canelo.....
      Btw Boxrec (which I don't always co-sign as they aren't an exact science either) has GGG #3 pfp...that is basically a representation of which current guys have the best resume.

      This is how, for lack of a better word, insane, you guys look when you push back so much about GGG lol.

      There is valid stuff to criticize him for...but to say he doesn't have a top current resume...I mean what are y'all even watching lol.

      Which 5 guys would you guys say have a better resume than GGG right now? Genuine question there.
      Last edited by Boxing_1013; 11-14-2019, 11:20 PM.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Boxing_1013
        Why are you backing down from that dude lol...he's wrong
        Cuz he brought up the fact that TS was talking about wins not just names on a Resume.

        I aint on that ego shyt...and i aint a troll or fanboy have no problem being wrong. Ya kno

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          #44
          Originally posted by Boxing_1013
          Btw Boxrec (which I don't always co-sign as they aren't an exact science either) has GGG #3 pfp...that is basically a representation of which current guys have the best resume.

          This is how, for lack of a better word, insane, you guys look when you push back so much about GGG lol.

          There is valid stuff to criticize him for...but to say he doesn't have a top current resume...I mean what are y'all even watching lol.

          Which 5 guys would you guys say have a better resume than GGG right now? Genuine question there.

          I like GGG even though i had him winning both Canelo fights they aint official wins.. One loss and a draw. Withought that win i couldnt put him top 5 resumes. Withought Canelo his best win is Jacobs

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            #45
            Originally posted by KillaMane26
            Cuz he brought up the fact that TS was talking about wins not just names on a Resume.

            I aint on that ego shyt...and i aint a troll or fanboy have no problem being wrong. Ya kno
            Got ya...yeah I guess to me, 'a brief account of a person’s education, qualifications, and previous experience' means 'what have they done in their career/fights'...and that takes into account more than wins...to me that means you need to take into account who, what, when, where, why, how, everything.

            For example fighter A and B could both have a W over fighter C...but if fighter A did it much more impressively...well he has a better resume, but they technically have the same official win...in his scenario those two guys would have the same resume...and that's not really how resumes work.

            Like in a real world example...if Porter was giving his boxing resume...he would list some of his impressive performances, and not necessarily mention that he officially lost...he could tout other 'impressive' stats from those fights.

            If Spence was giving his resume...he would tout the official win over Porter...and Porter's ranking at that time, the knock down etc.
            Last edited by Boxing_1013; 11-14-2019, 11:52 PM.

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              #46
              Originally posted by KillaMane26
              I like GGG even though i had him winning both Canelo fights they aint official wins.. One loss and a draw. Withought that win i couldnt put him top 5 resumes. Withought Canelo his best win is Jacobs
              Got ya..yeah even going just by official wins...which btw to me I just don't see how you can do that - because again that means Trevor Berbick, for example, gets as much credit for beating Ali as Frazier did...Frazier's legacy/resume imo is part of what happened in those 3 fights with Ali, in his prime..that's part of his resume ya know.

              But yeah even by official wins I don't immediately see the 5 guys above GGG currently...Jacobs, Lemieux, Brook, Murray, Monroe, Geale, Macklin, Stevens, Ouma, Dereveychenko...I mean that's a really good 10 off the top of my head for GGG...I can't see 5 active guys with 10 better Ws than that.

              Not to mention that if we are just going by name...that a guy like Vanes, or Geale or Ouma...would be much considerably better wins for GGG if we are just going by name value alone.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Boxing_1013
                Got ya..yeah even going just by official wins...which btw to me I just don't see how you can do that - because again that means Trevor Berbick, for example, gets as much credit for beating Ali as Frazier did...Frazier's legacy/resume imo is part of what happened in those 3 fights with Ali, in his prime..that's part of his resume ya know.

                But yeah even by official wins I don't immediately see the 5 guys above GGG currently...Jacobs, Lemieux, Brook, Murray, Monroe, Geale, Macklin, Stevens, Ouma, Dereveychenko...I mean that's a really good 10 off the top of my head for GGG...I can't see 5 active guys with 10 better Ws than that.

                Not to mention that if we are just going by name...that a guy like Vanes, or Geale or Ouma...would be much considerably better wins for GGG if we are just going by name value alone.

                But 5.......

                DSG
                Manny
                Roman
                Thurman
                Canelo

                Off the top of the head.

                No way i could put GGG as top 5 best as terms as Wins.

                Withought Canelo how could u put him above any of the guys i listed

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Boxing_1013
                  Got ya..yeah even going just by official wins...which btw to me I just don't see how you can do that - because again that means Trevor Berbick, for example, gets as much credit for beating Ali as Frazier did...Frazier's legacy/resume imo is part of what happened in those 3 fights with Ali, in his prime..that's part of his resume ya know.

                  But yeah even by official wins I don't immediately see the 5 guys above GGG currently...Jacobs, Lemieux, Brook, Murray, Monroe, Geale, Macklin, Stevens, Ouma, Dereveychenko...I mean that's a really good 10 off the top of my head for GGG...I can't see 5 active guys with 10 better Ws than that.

                  Not to mention that if we are just going by name...that a guy like Vanes, or Geale or Ouma...would be much considerably better wins for GGG if we are just going by name value alone.
                  Originally posted by KillaMane26
                  But 5.......

                  DSG
                  Manny
                  Roman
                  Thurman
                  Canelo

                  Off the top of the head.

                  No way i could put GGG as top 5 best as terms as Wins.

                  Withought Canelo how could u put him above any of the guys i listed
                  Man tbh I literally had to pick my jaw off the floor seeing you having DSG and Keith as like having clearly better resumes than GGG lol...I just can't see that at all...I'll list Danny's good wins here and GGG's and Keith's....if I am missing any let me know:

                  Paulie
                  Peterson
                  Matthyse
                  Judah
                  Khan
                  Moralesx2 (I guess...I mean this is like giving Ali to Berbick ya know)

                  Compared to that list for GGG:

                  SD
                  Jacobs
                  Brook
                  Murray
                  Lemieux
                  Monroe
                  Stevens
                  Macklin
                  Ouma
                  Geale

                  And tbh I could add like 7 more quality wins for GGG in there too...Adama, Rosado, Rubio, Proksa, Vanes etc.

                  Keith:
                  Danny
                  Porter

                  Collazo
                  Bundu
                  Guerrero
                  Lopez

                  I had to separate those last 4 because they don't belong near the top 2...am I missing any for those 2 guys?

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                  • KillaMane26
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Boxing_1013
                    Man tbh I literally had to pick my jaw off the floor seeing you having DSG and Keith as like having clearly better resumes than GGG lol...I just can't see that at all...I'll list Danny's good wins here and GGG's and Keith's....if I am missing any let me know:

                    Paulie
                    Peterson
                    Matthyse
                    Judah
                    Khan
                    Moralesx2 (I guess...I mean this is like giving Ali to Berbick ya know)

                    Compared to that list for GGG:

                    SD
                    Jacobs
                    Brook
                    Murray
                    Lemieux
                    Monroe
                    Stevens
                    Macklin
                    Ouma
                    Geale

                    And tbh I could add like 7 more quality wins for GGG in there too...Adama, Rosado, Rubio, Proksa, Vanes etc.

                    Keith:
                    Danny
                    Porter

                    Collazo
                    Bundu
                    Guerrero
                    Lopez

                    I had to separate those last 4 because they don't belong near the top 2...am I missing any for those 2 guys?

                    But DSG wins over Khan and Mattysee were big wins.

                    Thurman wins over DSG and Porter were big wins.

                    GGG big wins were Jacobs, Murray

                    Most of GGG wins weren't big wins at all but just decent.

                    No way any of his wins match up with DSG knocking out Khan who was a beast at 140 and Mattysee who was the boogeyman at the time.

                    Then you have Thurman beating DSG and Porter who both have good resumes.

                    You named all of GGG wins both most were decent at best. Im sorry but withought Canelo his resume is avg.

                    Its like if you took away Paul willams and Kelly Pavlik from Martinez resume it automatically becomes dry asf. Decent/ok at best.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by KillaMane26
                      But DSG wins over Khan and Mattysee were big wins.

                      Thurman wins over DSG and Porter were big wins.

                      GGG big wins were Jacobs, Murray

                      Most of GGG wins weren't big wins at all but just decent.

                      No way any of his wins match up with DSG knocking out Khan who was a beast at 140 and Mattysee who was the boogeyman at the time.

                      Then you have Thurman beating DSG and Porter who both have good resumes.

                      You named all of GGG wins both most were decent at best. Im sorry but withought Canelo his resume is avg.

                      Its like if you took away Paul willams and Kelly Pavlik from Martinez resume it automatically becomes dry asf. Decent/ok at best.
                      Idk man maybe it comes from following those divisions more closely...I followed 147 and up more closely than 140 and below so I can't really say too much about the Khan and Matthyse wins...it does look like Khan had just lost before he faced Danny...and it probably wasn't like the 'loss' that Murray had vs the other top dog at MW in Sergio...but the Matthyse win looks pretty good.

                      But just on face value I can't really see how those two wins are better than GGG's top two of Murray and Jacobs...and then Lemieux...I won't even list SD as I feel that was a very competitive fight...but again if we are just giving credit based on official wins you have to give GGG credit for that one...which is probably fair considering we can't give him anything for those 2 Canelo fights.

                      So yeah without being an expert on DSG and Keith's resumes...it looks like GGG has at least 4 official top wins...Lemieux Jacobs Murray and SD...while DSG has like 2 and Keith 2...and then GGG has like a lot more quality wins than those two guys too.

                      So yeah idk man I guess we just have to look at all the data and try to call it like we see it.

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