So everyone agrees Gamboa is washed up/a cherry pick?

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  • Boxing_1013
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    So everyone agrees Gamboa is washed up/a cherry pick?

    But Canelo's wins (or we could say some of Floyd's wins etc) over Mosley, Cotto (and even Kov) are considered great wins by many? And I'm not really not trying to pick on them here, they/their wins there are just the first ones that comes to mind.

    I just don't understand the logic sometimes...so beating a formerly great fighter above his best weight, when he is very old, is considered a great win and legacy defining win by some.

    But beating a formerly really good fighter above his best weight, when he is very old, is considered a cherry-pick and given no credit.

    I feel like I'm the only one on here kind of in the middle on those fights...if you can beat those guys impressively even in those circumstances, I think it is a pretty good win...but if you don't really impress there that much, well no I don't think you should get a ton of credit there.

    I think it is in general more impressive to beat a prime quality contender in your weight class, rather than to get a solid win over a washed up former great fighter, above the weights where he was even great.

    To me it is like getting a win over a 7/10 guy...vs getting a win over a guy who used to be 8.5/10, and is now 6.5-7/10.

    I just don't really understand the overhyping of those wins sometimes...and then why Tank (and I am not really a fan of his at all) gets a lot of sh.it for this fight...other guys have done very similar and get immense praise.
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    #2
    Pretty much. Anybody who says otherwise most likely have no credibility as a boxing fan

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    • Deeznuts
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      #3
      It's a bs fight because after being beaten by Crawford, Gamboa has not beaten a top quality opponent and was stopped on his comeback by a guy he was supposed to easily handle. His ring activity after that loss is also in question. I am happy for Gamboa but Davis needs to take some steps forward instead of remaining in neutral an not fighting the best.

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        #4
        I agree that Gamboa is washed up and a cherrypick.

        But not with your comparison to Kovalev, Cotto, etc.

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        • Boxing_1013
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          #5
          Originally posted by KillaMane26
          Pretty much. Anybody who says otherwise most likely have no credibility as a boxing fan
          Originally posted by Deeznuts
          It's a bs fight because after being beaten by Crawford, Gamboa has not beaten a top quality opponent and was stopped on his comeback by a guy he was supposed to easily handle. His ring activity after that loss is also in question. I am happy for Gamboa but Davis needs to take some steps forward instead of remaining in neutral an not fighting the best.
          Thanks for the replies but it was more of a rhetorical question...thread was more about why some wins like that are considered great and others are more seen for what they are

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          • Boxing_1013
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            #6
            Originally posted by Jalen Rose
            To me it is like getting a win over a 7/10 guy...vs getting a win over a guy who used to be 8.5/10, and is now 6.5-7/10.
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
            I agree that Gamboa is washed up and a cherrypick.

            But not with your comparison to Kovalev, Cotto, etc.
            Where would you rate those guys top levels, and then the level of Mosley Cotto and Kovalev when they fought Canelo?

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            • ShaneMosleySr
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              #7
              Gamboa is washed up. Mosley was incredibly washed up when he fought Canelo. Cotto was washed up and so was Kovalev. At least Kovalev was a bigger guy.

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              • Boxing_1013
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                #8
                Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
                Gamboa is washed up. Mosley was incredibly washed up when he fought Canelo. Cotto was washed up and so was Kovalev. At least Kovalev was a bigger guy.
                Thanks...yeah I just don't see why there is a big difference in credit given for some in wins like that...you are at least consistent, I've seen your posts even before this one.

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                • ShaneMosleySr
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                  #9
                  Canelo has a lot of fans and that’s what I think it is.

                  Originally posted by Jalen Rose
                  Thanks...yeah I just don't see why there is a big difference in credit given for some in wins like that...you are at least consistent, I've seen your posts even before this one.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
                    Gamboa is washed up. Mosley was incredibly washed up when he fought Canelo. Cotto was washed up and so was Kovalev. At least Kovalev was a bigger guy.
                    Cotto was on a 3 fight TKO streak before he fought Cotto so how is that washed up? I won't argue about Mosley and Kovalev was only in it for a paycheck.

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