lets talk about winning a world title....

[Slicc]

hes 25 and has headlined been on 7 straight showtime/ppv cards...sold out in his hometown already....and already makes around what loma makes per fight

I'm talking about resume, and you immediately deflect to his money and shows. I don't care that he's getting shows and big paydays handed to him against tomato cans. You know damn well that if it weren't for the marketing behind him, he wouldn't be shit with the kinds of matchups he's had since Pedraza.

do you want me to show you who spence, crawford and golovkin were fighting at age 25?

Tank won a world title at 22, so he should be fighting the best, regardless of his age. Anytime somebody makes a good point about Tank, all you do is deflect. He's wasting his talent against trash opponents, who aren't gonna prepare him for actual challenges.

everybody is "milking" the game...even the guy everyone swore was different and would fight anyone and knock out anyone....everyones hero golovkin....he milked the game too...but his fans swore he was different

GGG ducked Derevy, but eventually fought and beat him. What about Davis? He ducked Loma and Farmer, and fought nobody at 130 besides Pedraza. Now, he wants to fight Santa Cruz, despite being #1 under the WBA. Is this your king?

[YoungManRumble]

As people more astute than me have pointed out, one of the main problems is these guys are getting paid way too much to fight no hope nobodies, so why would they bother risking anything to fight someone with a pulse for money that wouldn't actually mathematically reflect the risk compared to previous paydays vs these 'top level guys' from their domestic region coming up a division or two to get dramatically beaten up in mismatches.

[Curt Henning]

I'm talking about resume, and you immediately deflect to his money and shows. I don't care that he's getting shows and big paydays handed to him against tomato cans. You know damn well that if it weren't for the marketing behind him, he wouldn't be shit with the kinds of matchups he's had since Pedraza.


Tank won a world title at 22, so he should be fighting the best, regardless of his age. Anytime somebody makes a good point about Tank, all you do is deflect. He's wasting his talent against trash opponents, who aren't gonna prepare him for actual challenges.


GGG ducked Derevy, but eventually fought and beat him. What about Davis? He ducked Loma and Farmer, and fought nobody at 130 besides Pedraza. Now, he wants to fight Santa Cruz, despite being #1 under the WBA. Is this your king?

dude..he just turned 25!!! who has a good resume at 25? virtually no one! jesus....you guys are sad and desperate.....get it through your thick, numb, skulls.....his resume is weak but he just turned 25.....ive shown you current "elite" guys and their resumes at 25...they suck too!

nobody is calling him a "king" dude...or even putting him p4p....but give the guy a break and try being objective instead of seething with hate for anyone affiliated with haymon and floyd

[Curt Henning]

As people more astute than me have pointed out, one of the main problems is these guys are getting paid way too much to fight no hope nobodies, so why would they bother risking anything to fight someone with a pulse for money that wouldn't actually mathematically reflect the risk compared to previous paydays vs these 'top level guys' from their domestic region coming up a division or two to get dramatically beaten up in mismatches.

golovkin was paid well for fights with guys like curtis stevens....stevens had legit losses to club fighters....marcos primera and jesse brinkley

ward called and golovkin avoided...and everyone said he was smart to...that it was a business decisions because he had a big money fight with canelo waiting.....

yet guys want to hate on a 25 year old kid because his resume is "weak"....his resume is no worse than any current "elite" guy at the same age....the only guy who had done more was canelo by that age....

lets take any p4p guy and view his resume by the age of 25.....tanks is no different...people just want to hate because hes getting pushed quicker as an attraction....who wouldnt accept what tanks being given?

[Curt Henning]

I'm talking about resume, and you immediately deflect to his money and shows. I don't care that he's getting shows and big paydays handed to him against tomato cans. You know damn well that if it weren't for the marketing behind him, he wouldn't be shit with the kinds of matchups he's had since Pedraza.


Tank won a world title at 22, so he should be fighting the best, regardless of his age. Anytime somebody makes a good point about Tank, all you do is deflect. He's wasting his talent against trash opponents, who aren't gonna prepare him for actual challenges.


GGG ducked Derevy, but eventually fought and beat him. What about Davis? He ducked Loma and Farmer, and fought nobody at 130 besides Pedraza. Now, he wants to fight Santa Cruz, despite being #1 under the WBA. Is this your king?

do you understand the concept that winning a world title in this era is easy and cheap?!?!?! its not like anyone is rating tank p4p right now......you keep harping on winning a world title....like its some crazy accomplishment in current times...its not

if i tell you broner has a world title in 4 classes youll tell me it means little because of who he beat and how easy it is to get a title

youre exactly who im talking about...youre a straight clown

show me an elite fighter that has a better resume than tank at the same age....that isnt canelo...you wont and you cant....does that resonate with you at all or are you just blinded by floyd/haymon hate?

[daggum]

maybe you think you are pointing out some sort of contradiction but you aren't. people don't respect broners 4 weight achievement because he didnt really beat anyone good so you basically disproved your entire argument because no one uses broner as the model for fighting good comp after becoming champ.

[Citizen Koba]

why is it when in reference to tanks rather weak resume by age 25(hes 25 now right? just turned?).....the stance seems to be "when you own a world title the excuses go out the window"??? it seems to be a general stance of his detractors

now conversely....if you reference adrien broner being a 4 division champion they talk about who he beat for them and how they arent that good...and how its easy to attain world titles and they are cheapened in todays modern game?

why are to many able to flip their stance on a dime when you relate different things to different people?

"oh i like this guy so i support this"...."oh i hate this guy so i dont like this"...???

its kind of gross

You do exactly that all the time though, man. You find all kinds of justifications for criticising the fighters you don't like whilst always finding exceptions and rationalisations for explaining why the fighters you do like shouldn't be subject to the same criticisms. In fact that's like - pretty much all you do on here from what I've seen - the weird thing is I actually believe that you don't even realise that's what you're doing, which is why I still give you the time of day. You do earnestly believe that you're fighting on the side of righteousness against the teeming hordes of anti-American anti-Haymonite evil.

I shouldn't worry though, man, self awareness comes late to some people if it comes at all.

[daggum]

do you understand the concept that winning a world title in this era is easy and cheap?!?!?! its not like anyone is rating tank p4p right now......you keep harping on winning a world title....like its some crazy accomplishment in current times...its not

if i tell you broner has a world title in 4 classes youll tell me it means little because of who he beat and how easy it is to get a title

youre exactly who im talking about...youre a straight clown

show me an elite fighter that has a better resume than tank at the same age....that isnt canelo...you wont and you cant....does that resonate with you at all or are you just blinded by floyd/haymon hate?

show me someone who has been a champ for 3 years and hasn't fought a top 10 fighter in that period. why do you keep using age as your arbitrary barometer for judging fighters? thats just plain silly because fighters turn pro at all different ages, fighters get title shots at all different ages.

also innoue is only 26 and has and had a much better resume at age 24 so not sure what you are talking about. im sure i cuold find many others for the simple fact that tanks resume is garbage. thats the whole point that you are overlooking. which fighter headlines major cards on US networks and fights bums for 3 years straight? how about we use that as our measuring stick. headlining cards on US networks. he has the worst comp out of anyone the last 3 years. if you are headlining cards how can you say he's not ready? then get off the tv!

[daggum]

do you understand the concept that winning a world title in this era is easy and cheap?!?!?! its not like anyone is rating tank p4p right now......you keep harping on winning a world title....like its some crazy accomplishment in current times...its not

if i tell you broner has a world title in 4 classes youll tell me it means little because of who he beat and how easy it is to get a title

youre exactly who im talking about...youre a straight clown

show me an elite fighter that has a better resume than tank at the same age....that isnt canelo...you wont and you cant....does that resonate with you at all or are you just blinded by floyd/haymon hate?

you can't?

how about manny pac. lineal champ at 21
how about mikey garcia. beat salido at 25.
how about danny garcia. beat amir khan at 24 and matthysse at 25.
how about donaire beat darchinyan at 24

even a guy like david benavidez probably has a better resume and hes 22

why are you pretending tank is some special charity case and that hes on world record setting pace for greatness? hes not. im sure we could find plenty more if you are into public humiliation but how about you just come back to reality and admit he is wasting our time at this moment. maybe he will be good some day but not today

[daggum]

do you understand the concept that winning a world title in this era is easy and cheap?!?!?! its not like anyone is rating tank p4p right now......you keep harping on winning a world title....like its some crazy accomplishment in current times...its not

if i tell you broner has a world title in 4 classes youll tell me it means little because of who he beat and how easy it is to get a title

youre exactly who im talking about...youre a straight clown

show me an elite fighter that has a better resume than tank at the same age....that isnt canelo...you wont and you cant....does that resonate with you at all or are you just blinded by floyd/haymon hate?

you could have done a little research before making this silly statement. i mean it couldnt hurt right? just look at the top 10 p4p right now.

4 of the 10 had better resumes at age 25: canelo, pac, estrada, innoue


2 of the top 10 weren't even pro yet: usyk, beterbiev

2 of the top 10 were pro for a year or less: loma, ggg

2 of the top 10 he has a slightly better resume: spence, crawford

why are you making tank out to be on some sort of special record setting pace?

of course this all goes without saying that doing an age to resume comparison is laughable since some of those guys werent even pro but its fun to humor you