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  • Mrsantiago
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    #31
    Originally posted by Legends456
    Not sure what you’re referring to here?
    I’m sure you may be one of the idiots I’m referring to.

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    • TonyGe
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      #32
      Originally posted by Legends456
      Assume all fighters are at their absolute peak.

      Roberto Duran
      vs
      Manny Pacquiao

      Floyd Mayweather, Jr.
      vs
      Henry Armstrong

      Sugar Ray Leonard
      vs
      Sugar Ray Robinson

      Aaron Pryor
      vs
      Julio Cesar Chavez

      Thomas Hearns
      vs
      Terence Crawford
      Duran
      Floyd
      Robinson
      Pryor
      Hearns.

      The only two I am really sold on are Hearns and Duran.

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      • QueensburyRules
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        #33
        Originally posted by Legends456
        Assume all fighters are at their absolute peak.

        Roberto Duran
        vs
        Manny Pacquiao

        Floyd Mayweather, Jr.
        vs
        Henry Armstrong

        Sugar Ray Leonard
        vs
        Sugar Ray Robinson

        Aaron Pryor
        vs
        Julio Cesar Chavez

        Thomas Hearns
        vs
        Terence Crawford
        - -PAC

        It pains me greatly, but TUE 50-0.

        Robby

        The Hawk

        Hearns

        Pryor vs SRLeonard?

        The Hawk via KO.

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        • Legends456
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          #34
          Originally posted by Mrsantiago
          I’m sure you may be one of the idiots I’m referring to.
          Please explain.
          If you think this is because someone suggested Henry Armstrong could beat Mayweather Jr., then perhaps a little history might help clear some things.

          From Bleacher Report:

          “ If you don't regard Sugar Ray Robinson as the greatest pound-for-pound fighter to ever live, there is only one truly valid alternative: Henry Armstrong. Hurricane Hank did what no other fighter had ever done or will ever do again.

          For a brief period of time in 1938, Armstrong reigned as the undisputed world champion at featherweight, lightweight and middleweight, all at the same time. In an era when there was only one world champ per division, Armstrong was the unquestioned king from 126 to 147 pounds.

          To put that into context, in today's era of alphabet soup titles and half weight classes, there are up to 20 "world champions" at any time, covering the same weight span.

          Incredibly, in 1940 Armstrong battled to a disputed draw with middleweight champion Cerefino Garcia. A win would have made him a world champion in four divisions during an era when there were only eight.”

          Now factor in that Armstrong did all this in an era when mixed-race/black fighters were marginalized and denied access to the top level resources many of their white opponents enjoyed, or that boxers of all races (such as Mayweather) enjoy today, and you will realize it’s not so outlandish to suggest he ko’s Mayweather and probably many other greats, (and I consider Mayweather an ATG)

          I’m not trying to sound salty here, I’m just being honest. The old timers, especially the black and Latin ones, really do not get their due respect here and I for one think they destroy most of today’s soft champions. Except for Hagler, that man was a DOG.

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          • Mrsantiago
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            #35
            Originally posted by Legends456
            Please explain.
            If you think this is because someone suggested Henry Armstrong could beat Mayweather Jr., then perhaps a little history might help clear some things.

            From Bleacher Report:

            “ If you don't regard Sugar Ray Robinson as the greatest pound-for-pound fighter to ever live, there is only one truly valid alternative: Henry Armstrong. Hurricane Hank did what no other fighter had ever done or will ever do again.

            For a brief period of time in 1938, Armstrong reigned as the undisputed world champion at featherweight, lightweight and middleweight, all at the same time. In an era when there was only one world champ per division, Armstrong was the unquestioned king from 126 to 147 pounds.

            To put that into context, in today's era of alphabet soup titles and half weight classes, there are up to 20 "world champions" at any time, covering the same weight span.

            Incredibly, in 1940 Armstrong battled to a disputed draw with middleweight champion Cerefino Garcia. A win would have made him a world champion in four divisions during an era when there were only eight.”

            Now factor in that Armstrong did all this in an era when mixed-race/black fighters were marginalized and denied access to the top level resources many of their white opponents enjoyed, or that boxers of all races (such as Mayweather) enjoy today, and you will realize it’s not so outlandish to suggest he ko’s Mayweather and probably many other greats, (and I consider Mayweather an ATG)

            I’m not trying to sound salty here, I’m just being honest. The old timers, especially the black and Latin ones, really do not get their due respect here and I for one think they destroy most of today’s soft champions. Except for Hagler, that man was a DOG.
            You’re correct about the old timers I also think Armstrong would probably beat him. I do also think fmj and pacquiao are tougher fighters than given credit for. Hagler was a definite ANIMAL LOL.

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            • eco1
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              #36
              Originally posted by Robi13
              Duran
              Armstrong
              Robinson
              Chavez
              Hearns
              Same here. Old Robinson

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              • Real King Kong
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                #37
                Originally posted by anonymous2.0
                Hey that Kovalev pic of yours with that ball and hat, what's it called exactly and where can I get one?
                Make one out of some cheap elastic and a tennis ball, then tie it to a hat.

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                  #38
                  Duran
                  Floyd
                  SRR
                  Chavez
                  Hearns

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Legends456
                    Assume all fighters are at their absolute peak.

                    Roberto Duran
                    vs
                    Manny Pacquiao

                    Floyd Mayweather, Jr.
                    vs
                    Henry Armstrong

                    Sugar Ray Leonard
                    vs
                    Sugar Ray Robinson

                    Aaron Pryor
                    vs
                    Julio Cesar Chavez

                    Thomas Hearns
                    vs
                    Terence Crawford
                    Answers
                    1,Duran

                    2.Armstrong

                    3. Ray Robinson

                    4.Chavez

                    5.Hearns

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