Comments Thread For: Canelo-Kovalev Generates $8.173 Million, 10,005 Tickets Sold

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  • QueensburyRules
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    #41
    Originally posted by Boxing Logic
    I believe both GGG fights were fixed, and a lot of fans consciously realized it, and stopped watching Canelo, while even more fans realized it subconsciusly. The commentators kept trying to fool us telling us GGG vs Canelo 1 was a classic, potential fight of the year, all this stuff, when in my opinion it was a lot of touch jabs and pulled punches. The second one a lot more power shots landed but no follow up when someone got hurt, and you didnt see punches thrown at full power from GGG.

    I believe both were fixed, even though the second one was much more convincing. I think the media narratives, possibly even the VADA test, were done to try to hype up the fight because the PPV numbers for the first one were probably exaggerated too. Neither of these guys is Floyd. I don't think Canelo is as big a star as they say he is, so they still wanted to build up his name more with the narratives.

    And the Kovalev fight in my opinion was easily the most obvious in terms of being fixed. He threw either pitty pat punches or punches aimed short at the gloves all night to my view, and then he stayed in the pocket an extra split second for Canelo to counter him repeatedly. It was the same few exchanges over and over, repeated, like a script. Everything very clean, like something rehearsed, rather than a real fight which is messy at times. The clinches from Kovalev to supposedly relieve pressure looked rehearsed, like something they added in to make it look authentic, and to make it look like Kovalev couldn't get away from Canelo's pressure, then those same clinches played into the KO punch later, a KO punch that happened right after the over/under of 10.5 rounds.

    I rewatched Wilder vs Ortiz, and it looked like Ortiz was pulling punches as well once Wilder got hurt. The 12th round of the Fury fight looked fake too. He broke his fall on the way down then pretended to be unconscious.

    All of this is my opinion. It's a fake sport now. Even if it's just subconsciously, fans are starting to realize it and they're tuning out.

    Makes you wonder if all American sports are fixed at some level. We know european soccer is. Thought America was different but in my opinion it doesn't look that way anymore.
    - -When U was fixed?

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    • lieutenant
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      #42
      Canelo is out of boogeymen. He's beat them all. It takes two to tango in this sport. One of these cowards from 160-168 need to start fighting each other and unifying to set up a super fight with Canelo. Instead of fighting each other and making themselves a star they prefer to fight Steve Rolls level opponents and wait for Canelo to choose them? It's pathetic.

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      • koolkc107
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        #43
        Originally posted by UNBANNED
        So far DAZN has done a poor job of promoting Canelo. They need to get more air time on different platforms.

        Floyd did Conan, other talkshows, Dancing with Stars, WWE, etc. Canelo does none of those things. Need to be a multi-platform boxer today and DAZN just doesnt understand that...yet
        DAZN is a broadcast platform.

        DAZN is not a promoter, GBP is.

        The fault is with the promoters if Canelo isn't appearing on tv shows or doing more interviews

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        • xhiddenx87
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          #44
          That puts thing in perspective. Golovkin is a good dancing partner for Canelo.
          Maybe the potential Masvidal fight could move some people into boxing

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          • moochi
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            #45
            The biggest fraud in boxing in the ring and the biggest outside of the ring.

            The "face" of (Mexican) boxing! Lol

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            • Jsmooth9876
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              #46
              Originally posted by UNBANNED
              So far DAZN has done a poor job of promoting Canelo. They need to get more air time on different platforms.

              Floyd did Conan, other talkshows, Dancing with Stars, WWE, etc. Canelo does none of those things. Need to be a multi-platform boxer today and DAZN just doesnt understand that...yet
              They gonna bring his interpreter everywhere he goes?

              The kid doesn't attempt to speak english, he's not going on US tv anytime soon.

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              • Jsmooth9876
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                #47
                If it's TRUE that Chavez Jr is getting 6 million and Jacob's more than that then you can clearly see why DAZN will fail.

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                • megh50
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Boxing Logic
                  I believe both GGG fights were fixed, and a lot of fans consciously realized it, and stopped watching Canelo, while even more fans realized it subconsciusly. The commentators kept trying to fool us telling us GGG vs Canelo 1 was a classic, potential fight of the year, all this stuff, when in my opinion it was a lot of touch jabs and pulled punches. The second one a lot more power shots landed but no follow up when someone got hurt, and you didnt see punches thrown at full power from GGG.

                  I believe both were fixed, even though the second one was much more convincing. I think the media narratives, possibly even the VADA test, were done to try to hype up the fight because the PPV numbers for the first one were probably exaggerated too. Neither of these guys is Floyd. I don't think Canelo is as big a star as they say he is, so they still wanted to build up his name more with the narratives.

                  And the Kovalev fight in my opinion was easily the most obvious in terms of being fixed. He threw either pitty pat punches or punches aimed short at the gloves all night to my view, and then he stayed in the pocket an extra split second for Canelo to counter him repeatedly. It was the same few exchanges over and over, repeated, like a script. Everything very clean, like something rehearsed, rather than a real fight which is messy at times. The clinches from Kovalev to supposedly relieve pressure looked rehearsed, like something they added in to make it look authentic, and to make it look like Kovalev couldn't get away from Canelo's pressure, then those same clinches played into the KO punch later, a KO punch that happened right after the over/under of 10.5 rounds.

                  I rewatched Wilder vs Ortiz, and it looked like Ortiz was pulling punches as well once Wilder got hurt. The 12th round of the Fury fight looked fake too. He broke his fall on the way down then pretended to be unconscious.

                  All of this is my opinion. It's a fake sport now. Even if it's just subconsciously, fans are starting to realize it and they're tuning out.

                  Makes you wonder if all American sports are fixed at some level. We know european soccer is. Thought America was different but in my opinion it doesn't look that way anymore.
                  I couldn't disagree with you more on this. I see you're disappointed in the performances of Kovalev, GGG and Ortiz, but those fights weren't fixed. Dude, I'm telling you, when you're in with a world-class counter puncher in front of you, with speed and power it's a very difficult thing. Pac, for all his speed and movement, could not crack Marquez, who is one of the best counter punchers ever. Canelo in my book is closing in on Marquez. It was strange to see Kov not throwing with power, but he was trying to conserve his energy and really thought he could win with that style. Even his pitty patty punches are hard and would deter most fighters, but it takes energy to keep a guy off of you. Whenever Kov stopped punching Canelo was on him. The same thing happened with GGG. With respect to Ortz, if you look at the slow motions of Ortiz, when he had Wilder stunned, he was putting everything into it. Wilder was trying to keep close and made it hard for him, and he expended most of his energy trying to close the show in that round. He went for it and didn't have the stamina to recover in time, either because of age or his training. Remember too, he was on the canvas two rounds before, and that too takes a lot out of you

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                  • moochi
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                    #49
                    Julio Cesar Chavez Jr drew big numbers.

                    Canelo has only ever done good numbers when they paid for a popular opponent.

                    You gauge a real fighter by their numbers against imports and in Canelo case he has many.

                    I think the reality is that Canelo is marketed very well though even the Casuals aren't fooled anymore. He's only ever survived off his Mexican fan base.

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                    • factsarenice
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                      #50
                      You wish and pray




                      y
                      Originally posted by Jsmooth9876
                      If it's TRUE that Chavez Jr is getting 6 million and Jacob's more than that then you can clearly see why DAZN will fail.

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