TBRB: Canelo #1 P4P

[ShoulderRoll]

Lol ESPN rankings is made up of a voters panel and clearly do not vote based on their platform fighters. I offer that Canelo actually has more #1 votes than Loma as proof.

Steve Kim is on that panel and just voted for Inoue as #1 P4P.

No vested interest at all, doe.

[Citizen Koba]

WADA made the changes. They made the changes because innocent people were failing tests, yes it does mitigate Canelo's test, he would not have failed under these rules. If the experts on PEDs can admit they were wrong and up the threshold then you that know very little should accept it. Canelo failed test was very likely to contaminated meat. It's impossible to come to the conclusion that he was "CLEARLY CHEATING" only a hater would do so.

. We don't know how likely it was. We can't say they were clearly cheating but we can't say with any degree of certainty that it was accidental either. The rule change isn't a reflection of probable innocence merely an acknowledgement of the impossibility of proving guilt below a certain threshold. WADA chose to err on the side of protecting the innocent from unfair punishment which is reasonable and perhaps more relevently pragmatic, but there is legitimate reason to question whether it is appropriate in a combat sport like boxing where opponent safety is also a concern.

[Boxing Goat]

Steve Kim is on that panel and just voted for Inoue as #1 P4P.

No vested interest at all, doe.

Lol he's Asian dude. I can also point out that there are several Hispanic panelists picking Canelo as well but I didn't go there.

The bottom line is that I usually go by the Ring ranking and will still do as such even if I disagree.
It is what it is.

[bigdunny1]

Steve Kim is on that panel and just voted for Inoue as #1 P4P.

No vested interest at all, doe.

Steve Kim

[The Big Dunn]

Steve Kim is on that panel and just voted for Inoue as #1 P4P.

No vested interest at all, doe.

Inoue has won titles in 4 divisions, just won the WBSS in his 4th division, is undefeated and hasn't tested positive for PEDs.

I will concede Kim probably voted him #1 for non boxing reasons but if you put his resume next to Canelo's he makes a strong case for #1.

[ShoulderRoll]

Inoue has won titles in 4 divisions, just won the WBSS in his 4th division, is undefeated and hasn't tested positive for PEDs.

I will concede Kim probably voted him #1 for non boxing reasons but if you put his resume next to Canelo's he makes a strong case for #1.

I know you dislike Canelo but I really don't see Inoue having a strong case for #1.

Getting dropped by ancient Nonito doesn't do it for me.

[The Big Dunn]

I know you dislike Canelo but I really don't see Inoue having a strong case for #1.

Getting dropped by ancient Nonito doesn't do it for me.

Not true homie. I don't dislike Canelo at all. I just think the PED positive and the emeritus title BS are not good for the integrity of the sport.

As for #1 p4p, my only point is Inoue and Canelo both have titles in 4 divisions. They both have big wins. Canelo obviously has more volume and has more names boxing fans will know.

Not to defend Kim, but Inoue hasn't lost and doesn't have the Lara SD or GGG Draw on his resume where most fans and those scoring at ringside felt he lost. Added to that he has the WBSS win where he not only unified the division, but did so against the best.

I completely agree Kim did this for non boxing reasons. That stated if you stick strictly to boxing record, opponents, wins and losses, Inoue has a strong case for #1.

[bigdunny1]

BWAA has him #1 as well

http://www.bwaa.org/single-post/2019/12/18/Canelo-Alvarez-Is-The-BWAA’s-New-Pound-For-Pound-King