Why isn’t Deontay on most P4P lists?

[Legends456]

I feel that Deontay Wilder, while not deserving of a P4P number 1 spot, definitely deserves consideration for top 5 or at the very least top 10 status.

Why, in your opinion, does he still fail to get recognized in this fashion for his many exploits in the ring and contributions to the great sport of Boxing?

He has an undefeated record, he arguably could have gotten the TKO win against Fury, who is a good boxer in my opinion, and he won a war with Luis Ortiz, a great boxer who is better than Fury and whom everyone avoids.

I am not a Wilder fanboy but seriously what does this man still have to do to get the recognition he deserves?

[ShaneMosleySr]

Because he hadn’t fought anyone good until Ortiz and Fury.

Ortiz won every round against him until he was knocked out and Fury got robbed.

[yankees7448]

I feel that Deontay Wilder, while not deserving of a P4P number 1 spot, definitely deserves consideration for top 5 or at the very least top 10 status.

Why, in your opinion, does he still fail to get recognized in this fashion for his many exploits in the ring and contributions to the great sport of Boxing?

He has an undefeated record, he arguably could have gotten the TKO win against Fury, who is a good boxer in my opinion, and he won a war with Luis Ortiz, a great boxer who is better than Fury and whom everyone avoids.

I am not a Wilder fanboy but seriously what does this man still have to do to get the recognition he deserves?

You can make a far more credible case that other than those two knock downs Fury completely embarrassed Wilder in the ring and showed he was on a completely different level. I like Wilder as a fighter. He's one of the most exciting KO artists I've ever seen. But his technique is utter crap and is completely dependent upon landing the home run shot.

[redmish]

I feel that Deontay Wilder, while not deserving of a P4P number 1 spot, definitely deserves consideration for top 5 or at the very least top 10 status.

Why, in your opinion, does he still fail to get recognized in this fashion for his many exploits in the ring and contributions to the great sport of Boxing?

He has an undefeated record, he arguably could have gotten the TKO win against Fury, who is a good boxer in my opinion, and he won a war with Luis Ortiz, a great boxer who is better than Fury and whom everyone avoids.

I am not a Wilder fanboy but seriously what does this man still have to do to get the recognition he deserves?

On what planet is Ortiz better than Fury? Unless of course its Hughie you're talking about. Ortiz is a decent HW without a notable win. No more. No less.

[LetOutTheCage]

Lol funny thread

[EnglishOxide]

Fight some actual top 10 competition perhaps?

Fury was obese and coming off the couch and Wilder didn't win. Ortiz is an old nobody. Breazeale was a joke.

All he has to do is fight and beat 2 or 3 of the best guys in his division and he can go top 10 p4p.

Usyk, Parker, Whyte, AJ, Ruiz Jr, Povetkin, Chisora, Miller, Pulev, Fury, Hunter.

Fight and beat some of those guys.

[Legends456]

Fight some actual top 10 competition perhaps?

Fury was obese and coming off the couch and Wilder didn't win. Ortiz is an old nobody. Breazeale was a joke.

All he has to do is fight and beat 2 or 3 of the best guys in his division and he can go top 10 p4p.

Usyk, Parker, Whyte, AJ, Ruiz Jr, Povetkin, Chisora, Miller, Pulev, Fury, Hunter.

Fight and beat some of those guys.

Usyk — Usyk likely outboxes Wilder through 8 before getting separated from his senses. Deontay gets the win via KO.

Parker — Parker has a powerful chin, but he has a much shorter reach than Deontay. I expect he would fight well but take several brutal knockdowns mid-rounds and the ref waves it off, or his corner throws in the towel. I think it would look very similar to Wilder’s fight with Johann Duhaupas. My belief is that Deontay gets the win via RTD.

Whyte — he’s good, maybe a little too good (steroids — ahem), but Wilder has the reach and chin to deal with whatever he brings. I have Deontay by UD.

Joshua — we saw what happened in his fight with Ruiz. Do you really think AJ can handle Wilder’s power? I have Deontay by second-round KO.

Ruiz Jr. — don’t get me wrong, I absolutely LOVE this guy, but he likely has some good moments before taking too much damage. Ever the gentleman, I can just imagine a bruised and bloodied sunglasses-wearing Andy giving props to Wilder after the fight at the press conference. Deontay by 9th round KO.

Povetkin — not the best boxer at heavyweight by a long shot, he may get in a few good left hooks that stagger Wilder and make things interesting. But Wilder probably puts him away in the mid to late rounds. Deontay by 7th round KO.

Chisora — Del Boy is a like able guy but I have a bad feeling this one doesn’t end well for him. Deontay by brutal 6th round KO.

Miller — I think this would be an AWESOME matchup because they both have loud and brash personalities. I think Miller takes his best shots surprisingly well, but ends up getting the fight waved off while still on his feet due to cuts from Wilder’s punches. Deontay by 11th round TKO.

Pulev — I think Pulev is a tough leathery old Slav and can take Wilder’s power as well as anyone, but I think he goes down several times mid to late rounds and gets counted out while sitting on the canvas on the third or fourth one, much like what we saw in the first Ortiz fight. Deontay by 7th round KO.

Fury — Fury hasn’t looked as good since his first fight with Wilder. I like him, and it saddens me to say it but I think that second knockdown from Wilder took his soul a little bit. I think Wilder sparks him out mid-rounds in their rematch. Deontay by 5th round KO.

Hunter — you know; that’s a good opponent for him I didn’t even think about. I honestly need to watch more of his fights before I make a prediction.

By the way, not trying to be argumentative, but just wrote all this out to back my point that I think most of these guys end up losing if they face Wilder, although some would fare better than others. Not to mention, Deontay is already into his mid-thirties and could slip at any time. Only time will tell, I guess!

By the way, I have a gut feeling an older Wilder facing Daniel Dubois gets beat in dramatic fashion. That would be a fun matchup to see several years down the road.

[YoungManRumble]

I addition to what others have said many people don't put heavyweights on P4P lists

[Marchegiano]

I don't put any HWs on p4p

[EnglishOxide]

So because you believe Wilder beats everybody, he should be top 10 p4p?

It doesn't work like that. He has to fight. Talking about fighting and making predictions isn't enough to get you into the top 10 p4p.

If only Deyonce himself had as much faith in himself as you do in him. He would be undisputed and sitting on 100m right now.