Best Next Opponent for Canelo -- Charlo, Andrade, Callum, BJS, Bivol, SOG?

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  • USMCer
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    #41
    Originally posted by Boxingraya
    He couldn't go below 168 anymore.

    I'd love to see him fight Bivol.
    That's B.S. He's an average sized guy at 160, tbh. Maybe a little thick, maybe.

    Daniel Jacobs, Golovkin, make 160 and they're bigger and older than Canelo.

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      #42
      Originally posted by -Kev-
      He’s small for LHW, that’s why he will go down to 168. I think at 175 the closest guy to his physical size is Bivol and he would fight him in a unification fight. He is still very short for 168 but it’s better for him.

      I think if he was going to go back down to 160, he would’ve made the Kovalev fight a catchweight, like Pacquiao was doing at 147 when he was still campaigning at 140.
      He fought Kovalev to try to win the LHW Title, not just some Catchweight fight. It had to be at LHW.

      Did Canelo pack on crazy amount of muscle? No. His frame/size is Middleweight.

      Canelo is a Middleweight. He'll go from 160 to 168, back and forth, if it looks like Andre Ward wants this smoke, then he'll fight at "175" again.

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      • Boxingraya
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        #43
        Originally posted by USMCer
        That's B.S. He's an average sized guy at 160, tbh. Maybe a little thick, maybe.

        Daniel Jacobs, Golovkin, make 160 and they're bigger and older than Canelo.
        I meant to say shouldn't.

        Jacobs next fight is at 168.

        Golovkin didn't just fight at 175.

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        • redmish
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          #44
          Callum smith. Canelo wont stay at 175 in my opinion and could possibly struggle to make 160. Smith is widely regarded as the best at 168 and I think it would be a top quality fight.

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            #45
            I voted GGG before he gets too old to make it worthwhile. Outside of GGG, I'd choose Bivol at 175.

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              #46
              Originally posted by USMCer
              He fought Kovalev to try to win the LHW Title, not just some Catchweight fight. It had to be at LHW.

              Did Canelo pack on crazy amount of muscle? No. His frame/size is Middleweight.

              Canelo is a Middleweight. He'll go from 160 to 168, back and forth, if it looks like Andre Ward wants this smoke, then he'll fight at "175" again.
              No it didn’t have to be at exactly 175lbs for the title to on the line.

              LHW is 169-175lbs. He could’ve made the fight at 169lbs for Kovalev’s LHW title.

              Pacquiao fought Cotto at 145lbs for Cotto’s WBO WW title.

              He fought Margarito at 150lbs for the vacant WBC Jr MW title.

              Canelo might be short but he has a big frame. Not big enough to campaign at 175 just yet, but too big for 160. If he doesn’t want to Roy Jones himself he needs to steer clear of 160.

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              • USMCer
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                #47
                Originally posted by -Kev-
                No it didn’t have to be at exactly 175lbs for the title to on the line.

                LHW is 169-175lbs. He could’ve made the fight at 169lbs for Kovalev’s LHW title.

                Pacquiao fought Cotto at 145lbs for Cotto’s WBO WW title.

                He fought Margarito at 150lbs for the vacant WBC Jr MW title.

                Canelo might be short but he has a big frame. Not big enough to campaign at 175 just yet, but too big for 160. If he doesn’t want to Roy Jones himself he needs to steer clear of 160.
                What is a Catchweight ?

                There is no pound that doesn't fall under one division or another. Yeah, 169 lbs would fall within the LHW limits, but if you mandate it to be a fight to be at anything but the MAX limit, it's a Catchweight fight. Weather technically the Title is on the line or not, that's what it would be.

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                • QueensburyRules
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Build That Wall
                  Andre Ward gives him a Boxing Lesson
                  - -Insert multiples of low blows, headbutts, hitting on the break, elbows, thumbs in the eye, grabbing and holding.

                  And don't forget the Imelda Marcos shoe collection and Son of Gollum references!

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                  • Shadoww702
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by deathofaclown
                    I’d have to watch it again to say which rounds specifically

                    I know I had it close for Lara. I could see 6-6 but that would be being generous to Canelo , trying to give him rounds

                    There’s no way Canelo won the majority of the rounds in that fight. It wasn’t one sided of course but he didn’t win that fight.

                    Anyway that’s not the point, the point is Canelo really used to struggle with that kind of style, win or lose, so I’d be interested to see how Canelo today would fight against Saunders or Andrade or someone like that, rather than a typical orthodox opponent that fights in straight lines.
                    Yeah you need to go rewatch it and score rounds! If you think Canelo didn’t score 6 rounds without Byrding the other way I don’t know what to tell you. Make sure to pay close attention to the corners and the work they were doing on Lara’s body. I can’t remember which round it was between but when they showed him on camera Lara looked like he was CRYING!

                    Better yet take a drink everytime Lara runs!!! Corner to corner...

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by USMCer
                      That's B.S. He's an average sized guy at 160, tbh. Maybe a little thick, maybe.

                      Daniel Jacobs, Golovkin, make 160 and they're bigger and older than Canelo.
                      I agree with you. If guys like Jacobs, Charlo, Fat Bastard Saunders (At the time), ggg could make 160 so can Canelo.

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