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  • Death_Adder
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    #81
    Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
    Floyd Mayweather is a five division champion and a four division lineal champion. His resume includes way more names than Canelo’s and he actually beat many of them convincingly where as Canelo has never beaten anyone convincingly.

    I think is incredibly overrated by most people, but this comparison is just ******.
    Fraud ducked the best in the division. Fought nothing but bums and cherry picks. Who were those division championship wins against? Baldomir? Who he went the distance with?

    His greatest wins were a young, green weight drained Canelo and Pacquiao with a shoulder injury that had been in wars and had been knocked out already.

    And you want to talk about not winning convincingly, lets talk about

    Castillo 1
    Maidana 1
    De la Hoya

    Then there's Judah, who should've won via disqualification and then there's people that say Pacquiao should've won.

    Oh, but lets praise that 50th win vs a fellow over-rated MMA fighter who never boxed professionally in his entire career.

    He ducked Paul Williams, Winky Wright, too scared to fight Martinez at a catchweight wouldn't dare mention Golovkin's name and almost shit his pants when Margarito punked his black ass.

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    • ruedboy
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      #82
      Alvarez was 23 and he got schooled by a veteran fighter.
      At that point Canelo wasn't ready for the big stage but he took a shot and I say good for him.
      When Floyd was 23 he fought Gregorio Vargas who had already lost 6 times and Emmanuel Augustus who had 16 losses on his record.

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      • BoxingTrav
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        #83
        Originally posted by hugh grant
        The enlarged bit doesn't mean.much because who's to say the guys Floyd beat convincing are better fighters than the guys nel o beat unconvincingky? Pac did beat common opponents with Floyd more convincingky
        I'd have Floyd slightly ahead but what nel o does now till retirement he may move far ahead of floyd. Far ahead I don't see but ahead of floyd I expect it.
        A few good wins in people's backyards would push nel o beyond floyd
        Floyd is undefeated against Common opponents. Manny has that one memorable loss.
        Last edited by BoxingTrav; 11-26-2019, 04:54 PM. Reason: Manny

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        • FredRekk
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          #84
          Floyd KO’s the clock, Canelo KO’s his opponents.

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            #85
            Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
            Floyd Mayweather is a five division champion and a four division lineal champion. His resume includes way more names than Canelo’s and he actually beat many of them convincingly where as Canelo has never beaten anyone convincingly.

            I think is incredibly overrated by most people, but this comparison is just ******.
            Not to mention everything Canelo does makes Floyd's win look even better. Same goes for Pacman...everything he does now only elevates Floyd's win over him.

            Floyd very well may be Top 15 ATG. Stunning and I was honored to watch most of his career. Good time to be a boxing fan. Shame HW is so horrible :-/

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              #86
              Originally posted by Death_Adder
              Fraud ducked the best in the division. Fought nothing but bums and cherry picks. Who were those division championship wins against? Baldomir? Who he went the distance with?

              His greatest wins were a young, green weight drained Canelo and Pacquiao with a shoulder injury that had been in wars and had been knocked out already.

              And you want to talk about not winning convincingly, lets talk about

              Castillo 1
              Maidana 1
              De la Hoya

              Then there's Judah, who should've won via disqualification and then there's people that say Pacquiao should've won.

              Oh, but lets praise that 50th win vs a fellow over-rated MMA fighter who never boxed professionally in his entire career.

              He ducked Paul Williams, Winky Wright, too scared to fight Martinez at a catchweight wouldn't dare mention Golovkin's name and almost shit his pants when Margarito punked his black ass.
              This post is seething with racism. Sad but not surprising. Trump really shone a light on you kids.

              I'm white but couldnt be happier a ****** BLACK whooped Canelo and Pacquiao. Makes me feel good seeing you simple people struggle to cope with that.

              Feelsgoodman. Faggot

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              • TheSlickster
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                #87
                Not even a comparison.

                Canelo hasn't even reached P4P #1 yet whereas Floyd and Pacquiao reached that point multiples and are already All Time Greats.

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                • The Problem Child
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                  #88
                  Im a golovkin fan but I must admit this. Golovkin is 1st and then Canelo is 2nd.

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                  • john l
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by lparm
                    He moved up move weight and beat the best 175 guy of the decade by KO. Floyd has good wins but never to that distinction. If he beat prime Manny maybe he’s higher but he avoided the real challenges. Picking a novice Canelo and weight draining him is a prime example.

                    War Canelo
                    LMAO. Floyd fought half his career 17pdes above his natural weight, and fought 24pdes 3 times. Also Canelo was NOT weight drained, and has said so himself, and his coach too. Quit making excuses for fighters that are not making one themselves. Love these agenda based posts that leave out ANYTHING that disproves their own BS(like May being 36 when he fought Canelo).

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                    • john l
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by ruedboy
                      Alvarez was 23 and he got schooled by a veteran fighter.
                      At that point Canelo wasn't ready for the big stage but he took a shot and I say good for him.
                      When Floyd was 23 he fought Gregorio Vargas who had already lost 6 times and Emmanuel Augustus who had 16 losses on his record.
                      You guys and your agenda's lol. You pick the worst opponents, and just happen to forget he also beat G Hernandez, Manfredy(ranked 1st contender at time) Corrales, and Chavez. Also everyone knows Augustas was MUCH better then record, and Vargas was a former title holder at 26 I believe(could poss be wrong on that).Also Canelo at 23 had been fighting for 8yrs, and was not your typical 23yr old. May was 36, and fighting a guy who outweighed him by 15-20 pdes fight night also, but you leave that out.
                      Last edited by john l; 11-26-2019, 07:29 PM.

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