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  • #31
    Originally posted by Boxing Goat View Post
    You took the bait

    And Lol @ the Vitali, Fury and Wlad losing to the dwarf fighters you mentioned
    I don't see the point in not taking the bait. Forum's slow anyway.

    Originally posted by ShawnTaylor View Post
    The guys you mentioned were dwarves. I mean, Marciano? The guy wouldn't even be a heavyweight today, but a light heavyweight. I honestly think Canelo would beat Marciano. Let the guy rest in peace, he doesn't belong in modern boxing discussions. I honestly imagine Nielsen pushing him into the ropes and hammering him for a 6th round stoppage...

    Was pretty common for a few millenia for "dwarf" sized fighters to stop big men. Then time limits were introduced, then weight divisions along with minimums.

    I am the authority around these parts for both history and physics.

    I am a patent inventor, and a kinesiologist, or, a physicist who specializes in human physics. I have documentaries on Showtime, Discovery, TLC, and Channel 4 to back these credentials in public.

    Sole author of the most complete resource for HW champions, sanctioning bodies, rules, laws, commissions, authorities, rituals, myths, clubs, and religions found online, period.

    That said, I am well researched in both the history and the science of boxing and I disagree.

    You ignorantly assume boxing has an innate unfair advantage to larger men backed by nothing. There is no history for it nor any science to support it.

    Just because everyone in boxing believes it doesn't make it truth. Everyone in boxing believes power is something you're born with. Do you really believe I can write that in a scientific report? We make prosthetics based on power being an innate magical-natural gift from the gods do we?

    How does a man like Wlad not absolutely destroy his own potential energy just trying to reach Marciano from the crouch?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Thraxox View Post
      Who would win, 6'7 240 LB, grannite chinned 90% KO Ratio heavyweight or a 5'10 guy from 100 years ago? the mental gymnastics of the guys that worship these ancient boxers as if they are the greatest thing ever since sliced bread when we can just look up the old videos from these guys and can deduce that they can't box in the modern world.
      No joke. Can you imagine anyone prior to maybe Ali's era beating Vitali Klitschko? No fkn way

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Marchegiano View Post
        I don't see the point in not taking the bait. Forum's slow anyway.
        That's a great point. This forum has slowed down badly recently.

        That said, the time old, tested and proven rule in boxing is that a good larger fighter always beats a good smaller fighter. That's all I have to say really and I don't have any qualifications aside from being a 30+ year boxing nut.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Boxing Goat View Post


          Nice Troll job idiot



          GTFOH

          You seen Ruiz right?

          He is white.


          Does he look indian to you?

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          • #35
            Andy Ruiz??? Wow

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            • #36
              Originally posted by ShawnTaylor View Post
              Which are the 5 best white heavyweights of all time?

              My list would probably go something like this:
              1: Brian Nielsen. This guy almost broke Marciano's record, he won more than 60 fights and all of his losses were controversial in one way or another. His resume is also very good, with wins against Larry Holmes, Don Steele and several undefeated fighters. He also got an Olympic medal as a testimony to his skills. To see a guy of such enormous size move with such grace was impressive, I gotta give him that.
              2: Andy Ruiz. He got a win against Joshua and his loss to Joseph Parker was close. His win against Joshua tops anything the Klitschkos ever did.
              3: Vitali Klitschko. His resume is pretty lame, his best win was probably against Tomasz Adamek. But at least he doesn't have a glass chin like Wladimir.
              4: Wladimir Klitschko. Almost as good as Vitali, but his glass chin makes me rate him lower.
              5: Fury. Because someone has to be number 5, I guess?

              Bring up your list.
              Trash list. Only the K brothers have proved themselves. Everybody else in your list don't count

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              • #37
                Tye "Big Sky" Fields.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Boxing Goat View Post
                  That's a great point. This forum has slowed down badly recently.

                  That said, the time old, tested and proven rule in boxing is that a good larger fighter always beats a good smaller fighter. That's all I have to say really and I don't have any qualifications aside from being a 30+ year boxing nut.
                  Except for when they don't?

                  HW got a minimum worldwide by 1920, smaller guys literally can't challenge the notion and when they did have the ability to there was always a small HW champion in every generation until minimum and then when minimum comes in the smaller end of the division still does well, to this day.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Marchegiano View Post
                    Except for when they don't?

                    HW got a minimum worldwide by 1920, smaller guys literally can't challenge the notion and when they did have the ability to there was always a small HW champion in every generation until minimum and then when minimum comes in the smaller end of the division still does well, to this day.
                    If you have some examples, I'm happy to discuss them with you.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Mooshashi View Post
                      Tye "Big Sky" Fields.

                      Wait a minute man, Butterbean was the king of the 4 rounders

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