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  • #11
    well, joet, he casually outclassed you without ever leaving his comfort zone. i was impressed.

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    • #12
      He hasn't been tested by a high level competition. But, thats common with TR fighters. They stay protected. Can't say he's for real or not. Yet. Hope his head doesn't get influenced by his entourage. That will block him from reaching a level he is capable of achieving. See it too often. Just ask Zab Juda or that wanba be princess Nothing Hammed.

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      • #13
        Joet, i respectfully feel like shakur didn't want to hurt you. He never really put any thing behind his shots. He just touched you enough to make sure he won hands down. He had so many opportunities to really crack you hard upside your head, and he didn't try to. He obviously did so out of respect for your sister. How would she look at him after he knocked u out? You can clearly see he wasn't trying to hit you as hard as he could, so if it wasn't for their relationship, you may have gotten stopped. I could be wrong but that's my observation

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        • #14
          Originally posted by archiemoore1 View Post
          Joet, i respectfully feel like shakur didn't want to hurt you. He never really put any thing behind his shots. He just touched you enough to make sure he won hands down. He had so many opportunities to really crack you hard upside your head, and he didn't try to. He obviously did so out of respect for your sister. How would she look at him after he knocked u out? You can clearly see he wasn't trying to hit you as hard as he could, so if it wasn't for their relationship, you may have gotten stopped. I could be wrong but that's my observation
          I agree with this.. fight was pretty dull because Stevenson didnt try at all to get him outta there

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Realizniguhnit View Post
            Joet is pretty garbage TBH. IMO you could take 10 of the average athletic black kids of Stevenson's size that grew up in a rough hood, meaning they've had quite a few street fights. Give em like 6 months of daily boxing lessons, get them in boxing shape and 6-7 out of 10 of them would probably beat Joet's azz at the end of that 6 months and i'm not even joking.
            this is crazy talk and wild disrespectful to the sport of boxing

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            • #16
              Originally posted by archiemoore1 View Post
              Joet, i respectfully feel like shakur didn't want to hurt you. He never really put any thing behind his shots. He just touched you enough to make sure he won hands down. He had so many opportunities to really crack you hard upside your head, and he didn't try to. He obviously did so out of respect for your sister. How would she look at him after he knocked u out? You can clearly see he wasn't trying to hit you as hard as he could, so if it wasn't for their relationship, you may have gotten stopped. I could be wrong but that's my observation
              You're not wrong. I'm laughing about the true love aspect, and how Joet got spared and doesn't see it. Shakur is smitten and carried brother in law. I'd yell foul, but this is about family.
              Last edited by Corelone; 10-30-2019, 12:38 PM.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by theface07 View Post
                I don't get it. By Gonzalez's estimation Stevenson is good but not great but he totally outboxed him. Does that not make Gonzalez bad?
                Ya that's kinda what I was thinking. I don't understand why ANY fighter would put down another that just beat him. I don't even get it when they win a close one. If the guy is that bad, then like you pointed out what's that make you?

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Realizniguhnit View Post
                  Joet is pretty garbage TBH. IMO you could take 10 of the average athletic black kids of Stevenson's size that grew up in a rough hood, meaning they've had quite a few street fights. Give em like 6 months of daily boxing lessons, get them in boxing shape and 6-7 out of 10 of them would probably beat Joet's azz at the end of that 6 months and i'm not even joking.
                  If you REALLY believe this you know nothing about boxing, and have never been In a ring.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Hot Shyt View Post
                    this is crazy talk and wild disrespectful to the sport of boxing
                    That's BS. Just because you are a professional boxer doesn't mean you're any good. If you knew anything about boxing you'd know a lot of these guys aren't even full time boxers. They have jobs and/or go to school like any other normal person. Unless you're a big name boxing really doesn't even pay that well with the average boxer making around 40k a year or even less after taxes and fees...

                    I stand by what I said, it wasn't a joke. Part of the reason I said you can take any athletic black kid of Stevenson's size out the hood and teach him enough about boxing to beat Joet's azz in relatively short amount of time is because Stevenson already had a decent size advantage over Joet going into the fight to begin with. Give Joet a little movement and he's like a deer caught in headlights. Garbage.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by john l View Post
                      If you REALLY believe this you know nothing about boxing, and have never been In a ring.
                      Nah, It proves you know nothing about growing up in the hood and never been in the streets. FOH

                      and yeah actually I have been in the ring. Boxing is not all that it's cracked up to be. The hardest part about it is getting into boxing shape. Once you learn the basics develop your own style and begin to spar more and more then if you are a fast leaner you can pick the sport up relatively quickly.

                      That's why I say pick a group of athletic black kids who grew up in a rough neighborhood most of us that come up like that already know how to fight we come up fighting weekly and slap boxing daily but lack proper training and discipline.

                      Now let me remind you or maybe you don't know because you're the one that actually doesn't know chit about boxing. The HW Champion of the world Deontay Wilder started boxing at 20 years old! The WW Champion Errol Spence started boxing at 15! Sergio Martinez started boxing at 20! Marciano started at 20 something, Tarver started at like 23 the list goes on and on and all became high level boxers. So GTFOH talking about what you don't know. Do your research clown.

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