Who exactly are ducking Jermall Charlo?

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of course ward never offered golovkin anything...because golovkin said they werent interested within a half hour....how do you offer someone something, or talk about a fight, when the other side isnt interested at all you dumb cuck

one day you clowns will tell us how ward never offered him any money...the next week youll tell us how ward wanted 50 percent

ward offered ggg a multi fight contract to fight the next year. he said he wasnt ready for ggg yet and needed more tune ups. this of course is nonsense because everyone knew ggg was waiting to fight cotto/caneo next and wold never tie himself up for a year for just ward. only ****** people can't see this. hi curt!

they rejected the offer so fast because it was laughable. why would you need more time than that to know it was not a legit offer? ward didnt want to fight that year. ok moving on. thats all it takes. what did you expect them to do when ward wasn't ready to fight? when ward was ready he should have sent ggg an offer to fight right then. not in a years time. publicity, propagada, whatever yo want to call it. it was a ****** offer. stop pretending that rejecting it in 30 minutes meant he was scared. he rejected it instantly because it was garbage. how long would it take you to reject a garbage offer?

[OnePunch]

Lol OK man fine...you can swear by your side of that story...others see it differently...who gives a sh.it really

nobody with a life, but some people get some weird sense of validation if they can convince someone else that fighter A ducked fighter B.

Like somehow it gives meaning to their life. I dont get it, its weird.....

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nobody with a life, but some people get some weird sense of validation if they can convince someone else that fighter A ducked fighter B.

Like somehow it gives meaning to their life. I dont get it, its weird.....

well the saltiest people are the ones with comprehension problems that think ggg not wanting to tie himself up for a year whle he was waiting to fight either cotto or canleo is some kind of duck. this all comes around to people calling floyd a duck for valid reasons but when you dont have valid reasons you just find some crap and try to make it stick. floyd saying cotto lives too far away and retiring instead of fighting cotto is the same as ggg not signing a multi fight ward deal instead of fighting canelo...yeah thats the same thing alright...

[Boxing_1013]

Your entire existence is a convoluted way to suck ggg off & hate on the ONLY fighter who consistently has faced the most difficult opponents possible throughout his career. Of course you as usual can't refute any of the common sense I write,so you resort to the usual ggg fanatic habit of deflection your addicted to. Refute anything I said,I dare you to while further making yourself look like a completely biased hating ass beta...


Try to avoid homô****** imagery if you do try to rebut what I said,ok cupcake

Dude I don't care enough to even re-read it man lol...also, I've never really said a cross word about Canelo...you can't go one post about GGG without trying to slight him like a 15 year old kid lol...so people can decipher that however they want to about who is being logical and who is being emotional, and people can interpret GGG and Canelo however they want to anyway.

I don't have my self-worth tied up in GGG doing well...so I can call it like I see it with him and any other boxer I see... for example...I thought he could have gotten to 6 rounds vs SD, but SD outworked him and was better than him that night...I have 0 issue with what happened that night and I don't need to sit around making excuses about it lol.

I made a thread a week or so ago as well...when you are the A-side on the scale that Canelo is, and all you have to do is go 12 rounds and do OK and you will get a W or maybe at worst a draw...some fights become easier to take...I don't think he has taken on that many challenges in general as you say, but he is a great fighter for sure I don't really hate on him at all in that regard.

He did catch 2 Ls imo in his fights vs GGG, but no shame in being a little worse than GGG, GGG is a great great fighter I think.

[Boxing_1013]

nobody with a life, but some people get some weird sense of validation if they can convince someone else that fighter A ducked fighter B.

Like somehow it gives meaning to their life. I dont get it, its weird.....

I like having a good debate...sadly it is only rarely, but it has happened before on here where someone comes out with some good information that I hadn't seen before, and I alter my opinion after getting that information.

And I do think there can be two sides to some of these situations, there can be room for both sides to see it their way in a way...but when some (on either side) are just intent on defending their guy/narrative on all issues, I mean what is the point lol.

A lot of this stuff has been hashed and rehashed with no new information coming out in recent times...I think sometimes people just want to see things their way regardless of what the data shows, and in that case, what is the point in getting into it lol.

[ShaneMosleySr]

No one is ducking him.

Plus it's all his fault for not dumping PBC and signing with Hearn and DAZN... HAHAHAHA I crack myself up. I'm sorry, lol.

[Boxing_1013]

Your entire existence is a convoluted way to suck ggg off & hate on the ONLY fighter who consistently has faced the most difficult opponents possible throughout his career. Of course you as usual can't refute any of the common sense I write,so you resort to the usual ggg fanatic habit of deflection your addicted to. Refute anything I said,I dare you to while further making yourself look like a completely biased hating ass beta...


Try to avoid homô****** imagery if you do try to rebut what I said,ok cupcake

I'll make you a bet..I bet if I go through your last 20 posts, 10 will include a reference to GGG...out of those 10, I bet at least 7 reveal some clear animus or bias towards GGG...I will report back here with my findings

[Boxing_1013]

GGG slight 1

Well why can't he fight anyone besides 154 lbers he drags up despite being a big mw?(Deryev wants smoke & named charlo by name) Why can't this dude now fight top 10 mws since hes a champ? Funny how him/Andrade both cry & cry yet refuse to fight any 168 lbers at mw even.(if for nothing else just to silence naysayers)

I don't buy any fighters bs when they keep calling out the cashcows while refusing to fight a single top 10 mw. It's easy to say he's being ducked & keep avoiding top mws/smws.

As long as Canelo is fighting champs constantly & bigger champs at that than this big mw who keeps dragging up smaller guys, then how can anyone criticize him for not fighting a guy that is older than him but fights nobody?

Canelos trying to go for atg status,& win Fotd, he's fighting a career lhw. The one who does deserves ridicule doe is ggg imho, because hes the one who isn't fighting someone better than charlo while ducking him especially after getting imho a gift way worse vs Deryev. Just my 2 cents...

Some story about *******:

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I have been kicking myself ever since because I didn't feel I had enough disposable income to invest long-term on such things at the time & put it off. I eventually made some money on it anyways afterwards but at that price I would've made up to 8 mil originally. I finally got enough $ that I am in the process of buying 100k worth of BTC, the reason being that I am absolutely convinced that Btc is going to be worth at least 20000 per btc by this time next year,(realistically I think it'll be more than that),I am among the only ppl who bought at least an entire btc at 9500 last bull run & held onto it for over a yr after it tanked, because I was completely 100% convinced that it would rebound eventually.

During this time my wife thought I lost a lot of money but I kept reassuring her as long as we don't cash out you haven't lost anything yet,only if it doesn't rebound which I was willing to bet my life on would happen,& when btc bottomed out all the way to a bit above 3k,everyone was saying that btc was dead & that it would go to 0 etc.etc. but I was absolutely convinced it wouldn't as I knew how ****** it was to think something worth $3.5k each was describable as anything haters claimed. Sure enough I began following everything to do with btc inside & out & I predicted it would go over 10k way before it did,& I am absolutely convinced there is a 100% chance it will double very soon due to the supply of btc getting cut in half in may next yr,& its happening at exact same time as the worlds biggest corps, institutions betting billions on BTC in different ways.

If gold or any other store of value commodity that resembles BTC economically were to suddenly shut down half of all mines producing it forever,then the price would instantly skyrocket because of the most basic of economic principles,supply & demand. If the supply of a precious commodity is cut in half & the supply is steadily increasing higher & higher,then its common sense that the price goes up. Well with BTC you have it set in stone that every 4 yrs the amount of btc being produced will be cut in half until the next 4 yrs & so on,so as the price history of btc has proven so far every 4 yrs btc has added 1 zero to the value of each BTC,there has been 2 halvings & each time the preceding 6 mos saw the price jump around 10x & continue going up after the halvings.

This will be the 1st halving where Btc has the worlds biggest institutions completely backing it & theres unprecedented new institutions investing millions to build mining farms in Canada to compete with China. In the next few months you are guaranteed to make more than any other asset class,since the beginning of the yr btc has outperformed every single other asset,& since btc was created there has only been less than 1 month worth of days where it wasn't profitable.

Since btc was created a decade ago it has outperformed every single other asset class literally (look it up)

Some story about Bob Arum

It just demonstrates the obvious that Bob Harem was screwing over Beterbieve by selling him out to the judges.

The fact that Gvoz was ahead on the cards shows how fixed it was especially since there was like 3 kds wrongfully ruled slips & 1 was overturned merely because Teddy Fatlass was crying about his fighter rightfully being ruled to have been kd early on.

After Fatlass started losing his mind(as I predicted before the fight;I said" he sux & would be why gvoz goes nowhere further in boxing")he literally started crying to the commissioner to overrule the ref & the ref proceeded to try cheating for gvoz by ruling several kds as slips, when it was clear gvoz didn't even want to continue getting clobbered after like rd 8 & not only did the ref do this but he also let gvoz continue after he was clearly looking for a way to end the punishment & hypocrite teddy didn't stop the fight despite his fighter getting destroyed into submission,& despite Fatlas shtting on other trainers & refs for not stopping fights.

Bottom line is that gvoz being ahead on the cards is as much of a robbery as it gets & according to the corrupt ref the only kds occurred in the last rd which is by far a far bigger travesty than the countless other close or semi close fights fanbois cry robbery about.

Crawford

My pénis sometimes hits my wifes pelvis hard too, doesn't mean It'd stand a chance in a fight with bud because just like mean machine it would turn black & blue after the 1st rd, & just like mean machine it'd be in over its head.

GGG slight 2

You're the definition of a hating ass know nothing clown. Countless idiots say that about every ko artist of the moment, countless ãssholes like you said Nelo would never fight All the big names on his resume,he supposedly would never fight ggg but he made him run away crying like a lil girl & you're so ****** you don't understand how risky it is for Nelo to fight kov at 175 while all the hypejobs you nuthug are fighting smaller fighters rather than getting supposed easy belts at higher weights in lucrative fights.

If Nelos resume was easy other hypejobs wouldn't be fighting scrubs let alone smaller no name nobody's for far less. And Kovalev has dominated top ranked fighters his last 2 fights & thrown & landed higher numbers than in his whole career,so hes far from washed up you ass

You're crazy & biased af. You have zero proof correct?

So far...2/6 on mentioning GGG in your posts...basically out of nowhere...but 2/2 on trying to slight him...should be close if I win the bet...very close!!! Exciting times

Maybe the real question is "what should be considered ducking"? I think boxing scene should have an official definition of certain terms & when they should be considered acceptable to apply to certain situations.If we did that & had some form of rules/order around here,then there wouldn't be daily flame wars between those saying so & so ducked so & so.

My definition of ducking means: to avoid fighting someone because you are worried they might end your gravy train reign & you would rather fight someone easier(style wise or skillwise).

This of course should mean that if a certain fighter is himself fighting opponents weaker than those available to him,then he forfiets any claim to being ducked especially IF supposed ducker fighter is fighting someone more challenging than him. And if the fighter whos supposedly ducking is fighting champs back to back & in higher divisions especially then they cannot be accused of ducking anyone especially if their opponents are also more lucrative fights monetarily.

So under those criteria nobody besides ggg can be said to be ducking Andrade &/or Charlo IMHO.

[Boxing_1013]

Usyk isn't a true hw doe of this era of giants,& only moved up to get big fights & money not because hes a genuine hw(as in needs to be at hw like AJ/Wilder/etc.)

What did you think about the "incidents" ruled as slips? Should Atlas have thrown in the towel rather than letting Gvozdyke take so much punishment late in the fight including a body shot that made him literally stop mid fight to take a break & wince? I think Atlas might've ruined his fighter by not stopping it,& now he won't be the same from here on because he took a ton of shots late?

Exactly! Beterbieve was going to get robbed if it went to cards. No surprise that espn had a fight that was completely fixed in favor of Teddy Atlas fighter.

Gvozdyke got kd early & Atlas started crying to the commissioner & got him to overrule the ref(which is fine had it stopped there) but instead the cowardly ref proceeded to rule the next several kds as slips erroneously just because he had already been overruled? Bottom line is the ref is complete shyte,that fight should've been stopped way sooner once Gvozdyke started trying to quit constantly,but the ref just kept making him take needless punishment,Atlas is as usual a hypocrite btch for not stopping the fight when his fighter was being battered.

(I can't believe the ref had to stop it & so late when it should've been Atlas throwing the towel) after several fighters have died,it was unnecessary imho.

I told everyone on here that Gvozdyke was not going to hold a title for long because Atlas sux as a trainer, (he was getting beat by Stevenson before his brain detached itself from his skull suddenly from a weird punch)& Teddy Atlas was being a hypocrite by fighting the stump he did his last fight, because he used to take giant shytes on Stevensons face constantly for fighting any non unification fight let alone tune up near as bad as that soupcan Gvozdyke faced last fight,

& I was called a "racist ****** uneducated,etc.etc" like every typical racist bs Teddy Atlas worshipping clowns spew,all because I said that Gvozdyke & his trainer knew they got lucky vs Stevenson & are very limited in a few areas that count massively in boxing esp. at lhw,areas such as: fighting like a pro instead of amateur style & punch resistance combined with awful at times defense as well as a shtty corner which was why I knew Beterbieve would ko him once he got him in trouble & Atlas would just lose his shyte(as he did)(Shadow702 you got lucky Beterbieve didn't fight Kovalev & might not ever fight, because hed ko him too)

I knew Beterbieve is going to be the last man standing at lhw but Gvozdyke is only like #4 maybe #3 due to size,& he'll likely never be a beltholder again. That said Gvozdyke has earned his respect for taking on Beterbieve when nobody else would & he took on the most difficult opponent rather than making another title defense & prolonging his reign(which is because Atlas couldn't take him to next level). Either way the nail has enough to retire on after this & a few more fights surely,he didn't take the easy route in the end.

That's complete bs,you should know better that Maidanas gloves were merely just punchers gloves MX everlast, just as many fighters that are punchers use. Fmj uses pillow gloves because his hands are fragile & he blocks more than punches. Gloves are not required to have a certain amount of padding necessarily,they just must weigh a certain amount & be officially sanctioned gloves,which mx everlast are. Floyd is allowed to use custom made gloves that nobody else has,& other fighters use off the shelf standard gloves.

Theres gloves of all types of materials & levels of padding,they only have in common that they're officially sanctioned because the main brands are all already officially sanctioned by design regardless of types.

When fighters have cheated by removing padding it meant they no longer weighed the same & were no longer considered sanctioned gloves,punchers gloves such as chinos provide no unfair advantage,fighters have to choose whether the reduced padding is worth it,but its a disadvantage to not have your knuckles protected at all by cheating & a fighter that does that does it knowing they'll damage their hands but will do anything to win because they know they suck & need to cheat to overachieve.

Just because he says its the best available doesn't mean it's true. Actions are the only thing that counts. And Crawford's actions have been that he became unified champ at among the weakest divisions in boxing at the time,but then immediately dropped his jww belts to fight the Hornet sting fighter(aka the fighter who stings his opponent then dies if the opponents don't fold immediately) ,Peglegavidez who he struggled with,& then a mere Con who goes down in history as the fighter with the biggest balls in boxing history, because hes the only fighter that got hit in the lower leg & still had his balls crushed like they were made of the crystal in his chin.

Shes like a 7 being generous on my scale. She resembles Crawford a lot but luckily still doesn't look like a man.

2/13 at this point..I am losing!!!...though one could question whether your apparent intense dislike of Teddy Atlas has to do with the fact that he had GGG winning both fights...including fight two by 8-3-1.

2/2 for GGG posts being negative towards GGG.

Your entire existence is a convoluted way to suck ggg off & hate on the ONLY fighter who consistently has faced the most difficult opponents possible throughout his career. Of course you as usual can't refute any of the common sense I write,so you resort to the usual ggg fanatic habit of deflection your addicted to. Refute anything I said,I dare you to while further making yourself look like a completely biased hating ass beta...


Try to avoid homô****** imagery if you do try to rebut what I said,ok cupcake

[DaNeutral.]

Nobody is ducking Charlo. He is one of, if not the weakest champ in the sport right now, he got given the belt without having to fight for it and to really honour the WBC he has decided to defend it against a 154 fighter who got beat in his last fight. I think Charlo is the one doing the ducking, i dont think him or uncle Al want him in with anybody good cuz they know he may well lose. But then thats the PBC way.