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Originally posted by satiev1 View PostKorobov already took him to school. Sergey would beat the **** out of charlo.
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Originally posted by Elpatron2 View Postbecause he only has 15 fights he lost,
sd vs munguiaOriginally posted by NachoMan View PostSo, if he goes off and fights 15 more nobodies, does that get him to the front of the line in your world?Last edited by Elpatron2; 10-15-2019, 02:20 PM.
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Originally posted by Ake-Dawg View PostSo who does he have to beat in order to be recognized as a top 5/6 guy? If you narrowly loss to and arguably beat GGG and loss narrowly to Jacobs, doesn't that make you the goods and not a poser/hype-job?Originally posted by NachoMan View PostHe lost razor close to two Top 3 ranked fighters. It seems nearly impossible to get a controversy-free scorecard at the elite level. It just doesn't happen. GGG should have gotten the nod against Canelo in that first fight. Canelo cleanly beat GGG in the rematch and still people are calling it a robbery. Forget the official scorecards. They don't tell us what is plain to our own eyes.
Sergiy is a solid fighter. In terms of P4P he doesn't crack the Top 10. There's no way. In terms of middleweights? He probably beats anyone at the B level and lower. That's fine. And I gave him credit for being a solid fighter.
But in my scorecard thread I specifically said - he should fight Charlo. That's a pickem - no way to predict what happens. Does Charlo catch him like he did J-Rock or does Sergiy's awesome head movement keep him safe? But then you think about his lacking power and you can't help but think he's prime for getting sparked. I love that setup - especially if one of the two goes in there and proves me completely wrong - a tossup where fight night comes and one guy proves the other was nowhere in the class. Clear, dominant.
That's what Sergiy needs. It doesn't even matter WHICH top guys. But he needs at least one to crack Top 10 and it needs to be clear, no asterisks, no razor close.
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Originally posted by revelated View PostOnce again, I am not a supporter of 'eye test'. I want to know WHO DID YOU BEAT AND HOW DID YOU BEAT THEM?
Sergiy is a solid fighter. In terms of P4P he doesn't crack the Top 10. There's no way. In terms of middleweights? He probably beats anyone at the B level and lower. That's fine. And I gave him credit for being a solid fighter.
But in my scorecard thread I specifically said - he should fight Charlo. That's a pickem - no way to predict what happens. Does Charlo catch him like he did J-Rock or does Sergiy's awesome head movement keep him safe? But then you think about his lacking power and you can't help but think he's prime for getting sparked. I love that setup - especially if one of the two goes in there and proves me completely wrong - a tossup where fight night comes and one guy proves the other was nowhere in the class. Clear, dominant.
That's what Sergiy needs. It doesn't even matter WHICH top guys. But he needs at least one to crack Top 10 and it needs to be clear, no asterisks, no razor close.
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