Usyk not big enough? Anyone remember Jimmy Young?

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  • GhostofDempsey
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    Usyk not big enough? Anyone remember Jimmy Young?

    Jimmy Young was 6’2”, 209, and defeated monsters like Ron Lyle and George Foreman using defense and offensive speed. He lacked punching power, and was robbed against Ali and Norton. He beat bigger, stronger fighters with superior boxing skills.

    Skills pay the bills right?
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    Not sure where people are getting the notion that usyk has no power. He has over 80 percent ko ratio. Ko's are ko's.

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      #3
      Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
      Jimmy Young was 6’2”, 209, and defeated monsters like Ron Lyle and George Foreman using defense and offensive speed. He lacked punching power, and was robbed against Ali and Norton. He beat bigger, stronger fighters with superior boxing skills.

      Skills pay the bills right?
      his second fight with Shavers was an absolute robbery also.

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        #4
        Originally posted by GhostofDempsey

        Skills pay the bills right?
        It looks like this saying is outdated among the Wilder's supporters. They liked to use it back in the day while Floyd was still active, but not anymore since Wilder is their no 1 guy - since then, their deepest breakdown of the eventual Wilder vs Usyk fight is, I quote: "Wilder lands that right hand!"

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          #5
          Originally posted by Offic.Scorecard
          It looks like this saying is outdated among the Wilder's supporters. They liked to use it back in the day while Floyd was still active, but not anymore since Wilder is their no 1 guy - since then, their deepest breakdown of the eventual Wilder vs Usyk fight is, I quote: "Wilder lands that right hand!"
          1-Join Date: Nov 2018

          2-What do Wilder fans have to do with Floyd fans?

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            6'3" and 215 lbs is Ali in his prime measurements. Worked out ok for him lol.

            I don't think he's too small for todays heavyweights. I'd like to see Usyk in with Whyte next. That would be a good test.

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              #7
              Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
              Jimmy Young was 6’2”, 209, and defeated monsters like Ron Lyle and George Foreman using defense and offensive speed. He lacked punching power, and was robbed against Ali and Norton. He beat bigger, stronger fighters with superior boxing skills.

              Skills pay the bills right?
              - -All Jimmy did was run and stink from the beating Foreman gave him.

              I grant that he obviously out clowned and outfought a sick Ali and the Foreman bout shoulda a headline title bout instead of being buried as a undercard in Puerto Rico to featherwt headliners, but that's all DKings doing.

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                #8
                Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
                Jimmy Young was 6’2”, 209, and defeated monsters like Ron Lyle and George Foreman using defense and offensive speed. He lacked punching power, and was robbed against Ali and Norton. He beat bigger, stronger fighters with superior boxing skills.

                Skills pay the bills right?
                Ustk is big enough. Foreman weighed 214 when he won the title. Ali weighed 206, Liston weighed 212, Dempsey weighed 185 and Joe Louis weighed 198 when they won the title. But is Usyk good enough to beat today's best heavyweights.. From what I saw he comes up short.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by QueensburyRules
                  - -All Jimmy did was run and stink from the beating Foreman gave him.
                  I remember Jimmy as having an "obnoxious" boxing style. That was the term Sean O'Grady used when calling Chris Byrd's fights. It was skillful, but not entertaining in the least.

                  Witherspoon lumped Usyk a bit, so imagine what somebody powerful and fast (like Joshua) would do. I think guys like Whyte or even Chisora would bull forward. I'm not sure how slick the guy really is. He fought a slow, gassed guy in Witherspoon and hasn't proved himself yet.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by QueensburyRules
                    - -All Jimmy did was run and stink from the beating Foreman gave him.

                    I grant that he obviously out clowned and outfought a sick Ali and the Foreman bout shoulda a headline title bout instead of being buried as a undercard in Puerto Rico to featherwt headliners, but that's all DKings doing.
                    Jimmy took George’s soul that night. Poor George ran out of his dressing room naked after the fight claiming Jesus spoke to him.

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