Why didn’t Floyd Mayweather fight Tszyu, Cotto, Margarito and Mosely in their primes?

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  • Monzon99
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    #31
    Floyd never wanted to go near Tszyu, blatantly ducked 147 unification with undefeated Cotto and ducked prime Margarito for two years and career high paydays, even paid off Arum $750 to get out of Top Rank contract because Arum was pushing Floyd all year in 2006 to shut up and fight Margarito. Floyd knew he would have gotten slaughtered by Margarito and picked that stiff Baldomir who played soft, it was so boring the crowd was booing and Tiger Woods and Charles Barkely got up and left in the 10th round. Floyd was so humiliated and embarrassed about ducking Margarito, he had some kind of nervous breakdown and cried like a ***** at the post fight press conference.

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    • hugh grant
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      #32
      Floyd fought a few big names past prime. He could have made up for it by fighting you g pups like thurman, spence etc etc.?
      But he never wanted to. And his fans didn't want him to also?
      No wonder his resume lacking

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        #33
        Originally posted by BangEM
        I’m a big fan of Floyd Mayweather and he’s the best boxer in the last 20-25 years. However, I can’t deny the fact that he retired undefeated is because he ducked some of the best boxers of his era during the second phase of his career.

        We all know styles make fights and based on how he struggled against Zab Judah, Castillo, and Maidana - I’m sure at least 1 of the 4 boxers up there would have beaten him. Tszyu was a bad boy that had Zab Judah doing the stanky leg and Margarito was a tough nut with power and a better version of Maidana. Also, prime Cotto before he was damaged with padded gloves by Margarito would’ve caused Mayweather all kinds of trouble. Ditto prime Shane Mosley.

        This is basically why most purists don’t view Mayweather as the GOAT despite his unbeaten record and he would’ve ranked higher if he took more risks during the 2nd phase of his career. And it’s also why I don’t rate boxers like Loma, Spence, GGG and to an extent, Canelo (bum beaters like Wilder and Fury don’t belong in this convo because they will never be ATGs...the guys listed have potentials to be ATGs).
        Come on man, everyone knows they all ducked Pretty Boy Floyd. Margacheato was the one Floyd didn't fight cuz he was trying to get Oscar & dis*****g with bob arum & that's when bob created this whole thing about Floyd "ducking" margarito & everyone ran with it.

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          #34
          Originally posted by PunchMeIDareYou
          The fact is that after he utterly destroyed Gatti in front of the world none of those guys wanted any parts of him.

          This.

          Cotto was ring side. The announcers are talking about Floyd-Cotto, theyre saying IDK if cotto wants Mayweather now. Did cotto go in the ring and call him out? did he call him out after that fight at all? nope.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Monzon99
            Floyd never wanted to go near Tszyu, blatantly ducked 147 unification with undefeated Cotto and ducked prime Margarito for two years and career high paydays, even paid off Arum $750 to get out of Top Rank contract because Arum was pushing Floyd all year in 2006 to shut up and fight Margarito. Floyd knew he would have gotten slaughtered by Margarito and picked that stiff Baldomir who played soft, it was so boring the crowd was booing and Tiger Woods and Charles Barkely got up and left in the 10th round. Floyd was so humiliated and embarrassed about ducking Margarito, he had some kind of nervous breakdown and cried like a ***** at the post fight press conference.




            Kostya fought once a year from 2002 to 2005. Floyd's first fight at 140 was in 2004. In 2005, Kostya was knocked out by Hatton and never fought again.

            When the *** was Floyd supposed to fight him?

            I get that you are like 15 and not around back then but there was never any discussions or negotiations for a Floyd-Kostya fight. Kostya was out with injuries multiple times and there was only about an 18 month overlap when they were even in the same division.

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            • ShaneMosleySr
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              #36
              Floyd Mayweather was the boxer that started this trend in the new generation where you say you’ll fight anyone and everyone anywhere, anytime but don’t.

              Before him everyone fought everyone else and in their primes. Now everyone copies his model.

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                #37
                Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
                Floyd Mayweather was the boxer that started this trend in the new generation where you say you’ll fight anyone and everyone anywhere, anytime but don’t.

                Before him everyone fought everyone else and in their primes. Now everyone copies his model.







                muh tooth

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                  Mosley in his prime ducked him.

                  Cotto at 140 ducked him. He and Arum wanted no part of Floyd after seeing him dismantle Henry Bruseles.

                  Margarito would have required Floyd re-signing with Top Rank who didn't want to make the Oscar De La Hoya fight and pay Floyd what he was requesting.

                  Floyd used to call out Kostya Tszyu all the time. But back then Mayweather wasn't a cash cow, just a very high risk low reward opponent. There was also an issue of timing as Tszyu had an injury layoff and then was on the way out around the time Floyd moved up to 140.
                  Arum has even admitted this. But it's funny how some people choose to ignore it. It's much easier for them to say Floyd ducked the fight.

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                  • Dip_Slide
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                    #39
                    it was actually the other way around.

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                    • j.razor
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by EnglishOxide
                      Because he followed the Haymon model of safety (business) first and legacy second.

                      It's precisely the reason he will not go down as THE all time greatest boxer IMO.

                      Tszyu
                      Hatton at 140.
                      Cotto in his prime.
                      Mosley in his prime.
                      Margarito instead of Baldomir.
                      Canelo without catch-weight.
                      De La Hoya without him boiling down

                      Fight and beat these guys at the right time and nobody could argue that he isn't the greatest boxer of all time.
                      You full of shet. Floyd IS T.B.E. G.O.A.T.





                      Mayweather considered moving up in weight again to fight light middleweight champion Cory Spinks, but because of negative publicity and Spinks' impending mandatory defense of his title, he decided to face WBC and The Ring welterweight champion Carlos Baldomir on November 4, 2006 in Las Vegas

                      You hatin' Mo Fo's that don't know shet bout boxing sound like brian Kenny

                      Last edited by j.razor; 10-14-2019, 04:18 PM.

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