Comments Thread For: Canelo: DAZN Didn't Pressure Me To Take Golovkin Fight

[Elastic Recoil]

please, stop..... you are killing me





Golovkin's official record against top opposition:
2* - 1 - 1


Golovkin's unofficial record against top opposition:
1* - 2 - 1


Canelo's official record against top opposition:
15 (1*) - 1 - 1





stay humble soldier

As Danny Jacobs and Eddy Renoso both said "You can't knockout Golovkin, he's too strong"

Now, regarding Canelo's record against "top" opposition - were it not for judges, the Las Vegas Athletic comission, essientially having a whole country making him the cash cow he is, boxing fighters on the decline, boxing aged fighters, stacking his hand wraps, using PED's fighting at catchweights and forcing unfair rehydration clauses on his opponents I SERIOUSLY DOUBT he ghas that record you posted above.

One things for sure, ginger boy will not be taking elite fights well into his 37th year - I mean hes 29 and his knee is aleady half falling of loool.

[aboutfkntime]

As Danny Jacobs and Eddy Renoso both said "You can't knockout Golovkin, he's too strong"

Now, regarding Canelo's record against "top" opposition - were it not for judges, the Las Vegas Athletic comission, essientially having a whole country making him the cash cow he is, boxing fighters on the decline, boxing aged fighters, stacking his hand wraps, using PED's fighting at catchweights and forcing unfair rehydration clauses on his opponents I SERIOUSLY DOUBT he ghas that record you posted above.

One things for sure, ginger boy will not be taking elite fights well into his 37th year - I mean hes 29 and his knee is aleady half falling of loool.

Golovkin wanted to be a Aztec Warrior, until Canelo beat the Mexican out of him... now Golovkin is off to fight Murata in Japan because he wants to be a Samurai

hey...

anyone from 154-175, is better than... anyone from 154-168... right ?

come on man...

Canelo (and Ward)... are everything that you guys thought Golovkin would be

lesson for kids: don't believe everything you read on the internet

[Senor_frogs]

How many examples of elite vs elite that result in KO you will be able to point out compared to elite vs elite that result in scorecards? It would be an interesting statistics (if you have a legitimate source), but please don't throw in anecdotal evidence. We all can do that.

Max criticized GGG in his video for not dominating or stopping Canelo. That is ridiculously high standard, which Max does not apply to anyone else. Not to Spence when he fought Garcia, not to Wilder when he fought Fury, not to Mayweather when he fought Canelo. But with GGG - all of a sudden we expect nothing less than a perfection. Add double standards to already ridiculous expectations of GGG.

No, GGG did not stop Canelo, but he did clearly won the first fight (even if the fight was close). If you so much inclined to go by what "a lot of people" are saying, check the prevailing opinion (boxers, journalists and public) over who won the first fight. And that begs the question to which you must give yourself an honest answer (if you can): what is GGG's level if he, at 35, beat Canelo (elite, prime, experienced and 8 years younger)? But no, let's deny GGG any credit for this because he didn't send Canelo to the ER. No ER=GGG is overrated.

Call him a "bum" while you are at it, add yourself some credibility

Look I’m not saying he’s an elite fighter cuz he is. But he’s not Great. And don’t lie to yourself. So let’s not pretend that the fighters he knocked out we’re elite. Cuz you Know they weren’t. Just look at the names he beat and check out their careers. And the reason I say he was over hyped was because as soon as he stepped up In competition the Ko’s stopped. It’s easy to look good when your fighting subpar competition. The best names he has on his resume are Canelo, Jacobs and Derevyanchenko. All close fights by the way. Neither ones could he ko. Coincidence? I don’t think so.

Now he was held to a high standard was because HBO, the media and Fanbois made him out to be this monster that he never was. So naturally when he finally stepped it up in comp and didn’t deliver he was criticized. And Both Alvarez fights were close. Also most profesional Boxers and trainers guys who know what their looking for in a fight saw Alvarez winning both fights. Not media or fanbois who’ve never laced a pair of gloves in their life.

So In conclusion. Do I think he was overrated his whole career? Yeah I do. And He’s not the greatest MW like they try to make him out to be. Not even top 3.

[JLC]

Canelo has only ever had 3 middleweight fights, period

Golovkin
Golovkin
Jacobs

Some people use his fights at 155 as ammunition to bash him saying he fought those fights at middleweight, but was avoiding GGG. So that’s why I included them in the count. But I get what you’re saying.

[TonyGe]

Some people use his fights at 155 as ammunition to bash him saying he fought those fights at middleweight, but was avoiding GGG. So that’s why I included them in the count. But I get what you’re saying.

Some people are pointing out that those 155 pound fights were not at SW because the SW limit is 154 pounds. So what division were they contested in?? Rolls and Golovkin fought at 164. Obviously that was not a Middleweight fight. It was a catchweight fight in the SM division. If there aren't titles or rankings involved fine but some people pretend they are in the division below the fight was actually contested in.

[MDPopescu]

... at this point, nobody is able to pressure Canelo to take whatever fight...

... let's see what happens in 2011...

[alexjust]

Look I’m not saying he’s an elite fighter cuz he is. But he’s not Great. And don’t lie to yourself. So let’s not pretend that the fighters he knocked out we’re elite. Cuz you Know they weren’t. Just look at the names he beat and check out their careers. And the reason I say he was over hyped was because as soon as he stepped up In competition the Ko’s stopped. It’s easy to look good when your fighting subpar competition. The best names he has on his resume are Canelo, Jacobs and Derevyanchenko. All close fights by the way. Neither ones could he ko. Coincidence? I don’t think so.

Now he was held to a high standard was because HBO, the media and Fanbois made him out to be this monster that he never was. So naturally when he finally stepped it up in comp and didn’t deliver he was criticized. And Both Alvarez fights were close. Also most profesional Boxers and trainers guys who know what their looking for in a fight saw Alvarez winning both fights. Not media or fanbois who’ve never laced a pair of gloves in their life.

So In conclusion. Do I think he was overrated his whole career? Yeah I do. And He’s not the greatest MW like they try to make him out to be. Not even top 3.

Let's start with the lie: most professional boxers and trainers saw GGG win the first fight. So did the fans. And the journalists. Period. End of discussion.

Btw, most judges are not former professional boxers either. And many have never fought. Just like many law professors never litigated in their lives. Got the point?

I addressed the nonsensical expectation of elite KOing the elite or if not - they are not elite. Show me the stats I mentioned and we'll talk.

P.S. Elite fighter also stepped up to GGG when he.was 35+. You don't know much about human body (or just left teenage years yourself) if you think 30 and 35 is the same thing. And still NOBODY has convincingly beat GGG.

I don't think GGG will have a chance to prove he is ATG. He could be, but that is a speculation we will never.be able to put to a test. I have no doubt he is HOF though. Neither should you, unless you are biased hater in denial. Canelo is also HOF btw, even with the PEDs. And let's not forget the PEDs.

[Senor_frogs]

Let's start with the lie: most professional boxers and trainers saw GGG win the first fight. So did the fans. And the journalists. Period. End of discussion.

Btw, most judges are not former professional boxers either. And many have never fought. Just like many law professors never litigated in their lives. Got the point?

I addressed the nonsensical expectation of elite KOing the elite or if not - they are not elite. Show me the stats I mentioned and we'll talk.

P.S. Elite fighter also stepped up to GGG when he.was 35+. You don't know much about human body (or just left teenage years yourself) if you think 30 and 35 is the same thing. And still NOBODY has convincingly beat GGG.

I don't think GGG will have a chance to prove he is ATG. He could be, but that is a speculation we will never.be able to put to a test. I have no doubt he is HOF though. Neither should you, unless you are biased hater in denial. Canelo is also HOF btw, even with the PEDs. And let's not forget the PEDs.

Alvarez boxed his head off in the first fight and then beat the Mexican out of him in the second. But you can lie to yourself if you want.

No one person is the same. So if you think the human body is exactly alike and that every athlete ages at the same rate. Then I don’t know what to tell you lol. There’s guys who in their mid 30’s are and were still competing at an elite level. 2 examples are Pacquiao and Hopkins. So there you go.

Now like I stated before it’s not that hard to see that the guys he knocked out prior to finally stepping it up in comp were not elite. All you have to do is go look at their careers or just ask someone with a bit of boxing knowledge and not your typical every day casual Fanboi and you’ll find the answer to your question. None will be potential HOF or remember to having great careers.

And your right. GGG will not have the chance to prove he’s an all time great by choosing to fight guys like Vanes and Rolls of the world. Or by choosing to take an IBO mandatory defense against yet another unknown. And looks like he is. Which will not help his case. And if he does take that mando then we can assume is straight BS and is avoiding the other top guys in the division. Because at this point in his career Golovkin is above belts and mandatories. So he better step it up because he’s running out of time. Also the best thing he has in his resume are the 23 straight ko’s and Canelo and Jacobs names. Not a hall of fame career if you ask me.

Now regarding Canelo and Clenbuterol. I would go on and explain to you why it was found to be that it was in fact ingested by accident and not injected. Or why WADA has a new code of conduct for Clenbuterol, where they have finally acknowledged a threshold for contamination cases. But I won’t because we both know that that wouldn’t matter because you GGG fans don’t care about FACTS. So I won’t even bother.

One last thing. GGG has been beaten convincingly. And all those fans, boxers, trainers and media members who you said had GGG beating Alvarez in the first fight. Those same guys you mentioned saw Derevyanchenko beat Golovkin convincingly.

[Senor_frogs]

As Danny Jacobs and Eddy Renoso both said "You can't knockout Golovkin, he's too strong"

Now, regarding Canelo's record against "top" opposition - were it not for judges, the Las Vegas Athletic comission, essientially having a whole country making him the cash cow he is, boxing fighters on the decline, boxing aged fighters, stacking his hand wraps, using PED's fighting at catchweights and forcing unfair rehydration clauses on his opponents I SERIOUSLY DOUBT he ghas that record you posted above.

One things for sure, ginger boy will not be taking elite fights well into his 37th year - I mean hes 29 and his knee is aleady half falling of loool.

He’s 29 and already has a better record than Lovkin. He doesn’t need to keep fighting till he’s 37 to try and cement his legacy like Lovkin is trying to do. And you do know that every state differs on how you can wrap your hands? Or not. Also as Abel Sanchez said to GGG in the 8th “We’re losing here, ok”. And admitted after the fight that GGG lost.

[ruedboy]

Some people use his fights at 155 as ammunition to bash him saying he fought those fights at middleweight, but was avoiding GGG. So that’s why I included them in the count. But I get what you’re saying.

At 155 Alvarez was fighting at SMW on fight night.