Why Haymon fighters stop improving

[Inspired]

same with AJ...hearn hasnt done some masterful job....the UK was going to get behind AJ like that if warren or anyone else was promoting him over there

I actually hope you read and properly digest the previous post without bias, just read and consider the contexts of what ive pointed out.

About this point..here's the thing
boxing was dead in the uk until Eddie Hearn came, that's a fact. obv it helps that there are lots of personalities like haye, chisora, fury etc..but even when they were active before their fights were dead.

There were lots of promoters, maloney, hennesy, warren and others..why did sky pull the plug on boxing then?

Eddie hearn didnt just enter with big stars to his roster either..he worked up with lesser known names. look at kell brook as an example he was a nobody with frank warren. With Eddie, what i like is, he's just as passionate when talking about Cheeseman vs Fitzegerald as he is aj vs ruiz.
when he's asked questions on that fight, he will go on about it.

in the US, he is again just as passionate talking about daniel roman or nikita ababiy or daniyar yeleussinov as he is usyk or aj or ggg.
You dont get that from goldenboy, top rank..and al haymon never talks.

honestly, i would not give a fk about ted cheeseman were it not for eddie always mentioning his name.
likewise i would not be watching a young otha jones or even know about a diego pacheco if it wasnt for eddie hearn.

he is easy to listen to and passionare..he sells the fights..and that has helped the growth of boxing.He's a mouth piece, simple.
there arent many in boxing like that at the moment. Dana white will be provided he is passionate about all levels of the sport and not just there for big names/fights.

[Zaroku]

[QUOTE=Inspired;20117538]i didnt actually know what a puto was, so i just looked it up. a male **********?
saying you like to chin check putos sounds a bit wrong man.


But you know, if i called for a meal right now, i would end up in queue because they're busy..and then the delivery would take an hour.
I could call a ********** (of the female variety) right now, she would be here in 15mins and she would cost the same as a meal.

Just like good food, the price doesnt reflect the quality.
There are ****ed up old crackwhores trying to sell themselves for 5x what a nice eastern european teen 8/10 would cost. Although she is probably trafficked, but is that morally worse than eating a slaughtered animal? end of the day it's all just meat isnt it?

I wouldnt mind ****ing a mexican/***ish whore though you know? there's more variety in whores than there is in food these days..and i would pick up more bacteria eating an indian meal than I would a whore.

I also read the bible from time to time. I read different scriptures, because just like ***** and food, i like variety in scripture.
What part of the bible are you reading anyway?
my fav is Ecclesiastes.
Very Tyson Fury-esque
'a time to beat klitschko
a time to get depressed
a time to retire and a time to come back and beat up a part time nigerian ancestory spirit'

Solomon also had to fight the part time nigerian ancestory spirit. It's name is Asmodeus


looks like deontay wilder doesnt he?[/QUOTE

green k ... sweet post

[Motorcity Cobra]

Seems like an article written by a disgruntled fan that's upset fights he wants to see aren't happening. Of course, he blames this on Haymon and claims it's hurting the growth of PBC fighters. I also doubt the writer has ever stepped into a ring and/or promoted a fighter, so he has no idea what it takes to bring out a fighter's true potential.

Let's start from the top, you open the article and the first thing you see is a picture of Adrien Broner. Broner plateaued. Not because he wasn't challenged, but because he hit his ceiling at 147. He simply can't be elite at that weight class. Next, Adonis Stevenson. He was a good champion for a pretty long time. Not sure what the complaint about him is. Gervonta Davis is a young champion, and it's way too soon to say he's stagnated and won't improve further. He completely puts the blame on Wilder for the Joshua fight not happening...and we can leave it at that.

"Haymon will not take any chances now with Spence, Wilder or Davis and they all know this. So they train with less drive, less ambition, less fear, less danger, less hunger, with less motivation and incentive to prove something. They go through the motions in everything they do in their training. And by not pushing to their limits, their results show the lack of improvement and progress."
Who is this guy to say how hard someone works? Sure, Spence hasn't fought Crawford, but he works VERY hard. He didn't learn anything by fighting Porter? He won't gain anything from fighting Pacquiao? He's just rambling, and inventing reasons to say Haymon's bad for the sport.

Scoop is a racist. Everybody in boxing media will tell you that.

[Freeworld124]

Scoop lost me a little when he listed Jameel McCline as a test for Klitschko. I would give that to Samuel Peter who was like a wrecking ball at that time, but he didnt mention the avenged loss to Lamon Brewster because at the end of the day, Brewster still has a KO victory over Klitschko.

But back to the topic. I don't know if that is necessarily the case for the PBC fighters. Maybe it is. Adonis Stevenson started slipping away with his long bouts of inactivity. Maidana was too much for Broner to take simply. Broner was getting shaped into a major star for Haymon and PBC until that time. It is possible that with that loss of money it made PBC re-evaluate how they move their fighters along. If that was the complete case I would think that both of the Charlo brothers would still be unbeaten right now. People think it's easy for and trainers to always figure out what is needed to go to the next level. It is not always that simple. But at the end of the day I would not go as far to say that PBC is purposely keeping their fighters stagnate. That's a bit of a reach.