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  • BoxingIsGreat
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    #11
    Originally posted by Richard G
    Rating someone as the best in the world is not going over the top if you have good reasons to do so or even if there is something about him that impresses you. That can be what it's all about for a true fan.
    Well said. Green K.

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    • icha
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      #12
      i dont think this is about ignorance or ******ity, is just a very biased agenda...

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      • R-Hand Southpaw
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        #13
        You go, what's wrong with boxing fans these days and all you have to do is look in a mirror. You and people like you are the problem.

        Oh. Canelo whooped GGGs as so hard in their fights that no one thought he won.

        Then you pretend like you know how to score a boxing match. Anyone can read a book. Anyone.

        Your boxing knowledge is so great you really believed that Mikey Garcia had a chance against Spence he didnt. Spence didnt retire Mikey. Lomachenko retired Mikey when Mikey chose to cash out.

        Canelo has more fans than GGG and more influence than GGG. Anyone with a brain knows that A side always get the benefit of the doubt especially when it comes to Vegas and especially when it comes to Canelo. Weird how too how you have a double standard like that.

        But no, you just want to ignore that.

        So when Canelo can barely edge out a decision against GGG who is the biggest hypejob of the last decade you claim Canelo whooped is ass! His face tells the whole story!

        But he only won by 115-113x2 and 114-114!

        That's pure domination! Canelo destroyed GGG! He fought using defense and mexican style! Winning the narrative or doing better wins you the fight!

        What a crock of ****.

        Take the fans on this site and all the media score cards. Its just like voting in politics. If the after poll has huge discrepancies vs the actual result we know the result to be questionable.

        So how is it near damn everyone score GGG winning both fights but the cards were continously edged in Canelos favor? Tell me. You think everyone else is wrong and that you're right?

        Why did fans here vote:

        Fight1
        370 75.98% GGG
        67 13.76%Canelo
        50 10.27% Draw

        Fight 2
        166 57.44% GGG
        96 33.22% Canelo
        27 9.34%Draw

        If they believed Canelo won so handily?

        Or the media?

        GGG vs Canelo

        21GGG
        1 Canelo
        3 Draw

        21/25 = 84%

        GGG vs Canelo 2

        34 for GGG
        2 Canelo
        15 Draw

        34/51 =67%

        Why is this I wonder? I saw GGG beat Canelo easily the first time around and GGG beat Canelo again despite the fact Canelo performed better.

        That opinion matches the consensus. How about yours?

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        • Zaroku
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          #14
          young punks know everything. they google everything. yet.. they live with mom, and can't find real work.
          ok.

          they fold under pressure, real fast, get emotional real fast.

          let's go easy on the highly talented kids who do not know chit.

          they can not even move outta mom\s house.

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          • Zaroku
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            #15
            Originally posted by Socialtwinkie
            You go, what's wrong with boxing fans these days and all you have to do is look in a mirror. You and people like you are the problem.

            Oh. Canelo whooped GGGs as so hard in their fights that no one thought he won.

            Then you pretend like you know how to score a boxing match. Anyone can read a book. Anyone.

            Your boxing knowledge is so great you really believed that Mikey Garcia had a chance against Spence he didnt. Spence didnt retire Mikey. Lomachenko retired Mikey when Mikey chose to cash out.

            Canelo has more fans than GGG and more influence than GGG. Anyone with a brain knows that A side always get the benefit of the doubt especially when it comes to Vegas and especially when it comes to Canelo. Weird how too how you have a double standard like that.

            But no, you just want to ignore that.

            So when Canelo can barely edge out a decision against GGG who is the biggest hypejob of the last decade you claim Canelo whooped is ass! His face tells the whole story!

            But he only won by 115-113x2 and 114-114!

            That's pure domination! Canelo destroyed GGG! He fought using defense and mexican style! Winning the narrative or doing better wins you the fight!

            What a crock of ****.

            Take the fans on this site and all the media score cards. Its just like voting in politics. If the after poll has huge discrepancies vs the actual result we know the result to be questionable.

            So how is it near damn everyone score GGG winning both fights but the cards were continously edged in Canelos favor? Tell me. You think everyone else is wrong and that you're right?

            Why did fans here vote:

            Fight1
            370 75.98% GGG
            67 13.76%Canelo
            50 10.27% Draw

            Fight 2
            166 57.44% GGG
            96 33.22% Canelo
            27 9.34%Draw

            If they believed Canelo won so handily?

            Or the media?

            GGG vs Canelo

            21GGG
            1 Canelo
            3 Draw

            21/25 = 84%

            GGG vs Canelo 2

            34 for GGG
            2 Canelo
            15 Draw

            34/51 =67%

            Why is this I wonder? I saw GGG beat Canelo easily the first time around and GGG beat Canelo again despite the fact Canelo performed better.

            That opinion matches the consensus. How about yours?

            so...you are a statistician? ok ok.. but have you considered a weighted avg.. standard deviations and the perception of judges ringside.

            have you ever fought. ever... i have.. many times.

            applying stats is cool and all, but there are thudding punches.. energy exchanges.. i am a engineer.. physics ... etc... yeah..

            my new job is for met life to look at actuary tables and iterate through big data..


            you want a job.. ???

            you could learn a lot.

            can you speak japanese or read kanji?

            if so.. hit me up.. i can use guys who like numbers and are willing to learn..

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            • yankees7448
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              #16
              Originally posted by LacingTheGloves
              Isn’t all judgement subjective though? Isn’t that the argument for some wanting 15 rnd boxing back?

              Don’t get me wrong I agree with you but it seems this has always been the case with boxing fans. Kinda sucks IMO but I don’t know if it will ever change

              Isn't it ironic that the guy whining about modern boxing fans is one of the guys who can't have a discussion about anyone over fighters he doesn't like without insulting that fighter or that other person.

              I am one of the biggest GGG fans in the world and on this site. But he acts like I am a nuthugger even though I've said more than once that I thought GGG lost the rematch with Canelo and repeatedly crapped all over the Rolls fight when it was announced.
              Last edited by yankees7448; 10-10-2019, 11:25 AM.

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              • R-Hand Southpaw
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                #17
                Originally posted by Zaroku
                so...you are a statistician? ok ok.. but have you considered a weighted avg.. standard deviations and the perception of judges ringside.

                have you ever fought. ever... i have.. many times.

                applying stats is cool and all, but there are thudding punches.. energy exchanges.. i am a engineer.. physics ... etc... yeah..

                my new job is for met life to look at actuary tables and iterate through big data..


                you want a job.. ???

                you could learn a lot.

                can you speak japanese or read kanji?

                if so.. hit me up.. i can use guys who like numbers and are willing to learn..
                Humor me please.

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                • Zaroku
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Socialtwinkie
                  Humor me please.
                  well.. i am an ex bank of america merrill lynch guy.
                  i can prove it easy.
                  now.. i have to work at Met life Japan.

                  i gotta come up with an algo to determine premiums based on death rates per zip code.

                  i do crappy work.. i know..

                  i need numbers guys.. but not just numbers.. weighted averages guys that can see patterns of death.. and i stop here.

                  i only get crap jobs.

                  i do not get good jobs, where i help people..

                  this is not that kinda job..

                  it is a cold numbers game, where i have to write an algo to determine who is likely to die fast and how much money needs to be paid to not look cheap.


                  i am like a used car sales man... but i do not have the stomach for it..

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                  • Thuglife Nelo
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                    #19
                    All we learned from GGG diehards over the years is this:

                    1.) “GGG destroys anyone...”
                    2.) “What will Canelo do when GGG has him on the ropes...”
                    3.) “GGG outboxed Canelo by making the judges snooze in only fighting behind the jab and is excused for any power punches and body work because we say so....”
                    4.) “You just hate Golovkin because...”
                    5.) “We LOVE GGG.”

                    #5 is my favorite. I’ve got links of this testimony from a live boxing panel

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                    • TonyGe
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Socialtwinkie
                      You go, what's wrong with boxing fans these days and all you have to do is look in a mirror. You and people like you are the problem.

                      Oh. Canelo whooped GGGs as so hard in their fights that no one thought he won.

                      Then you pretend like you know how to score a boxing match. Anyone can read a book. Anyone.

                      Your boxing knowledge is so great you really believed that Mikey Garcia had a chance against Spence he didnt. Spence didnt retire Mikey. Lomachenko retired Mikey when Mikey chose to cash out.

                      Canelo has more fans than GGG and more influence than GGG. Anyone with a brain knows that A side always get the benefit of the doubt especially when it comes to Vegas and especially when it comes to Canelo. Weird how too how you have a double standard like that.

                      But no, you just want to ignore that.

                      So when Canelo can barely edge out a decision against GGG who is the biggest hypejob of the last decade you claim Canelo whooped is ass! His face tells the whole story!

                      But he only won by 115-113x2 and 114-114!

                      That's pure domination! Canelo destroyed GGG! He fought using defense and mexican style! Winning the narrative or doing better wins you the fight!

                      What a crock of ****.

                      Take the fans on this site and all the media score cards. Its just like voting in politics. If the after poll has huge discrepancies vs the actual result we know the result to be questionable.

                      So how is it near damn everyone score GGG winning both fights but the cards were continously edged in Canelos favor? Tell me. You think everyone else is wrong and that you're right?

                      Why did fans here vote:

                      Fight1
                      370 75.98% GGG
                      67 13.76%Canelo
                      50 10.27% Draw

                      Fight 2
                      166 57.44% GGG
                      96 33.22% Canelo
                      27 9.34%Draw

                      If they believed Canelo won so handily?

                      Or the media?

                      GGG vs Canelo

                      21GGG
                      1 Canelo
                      3 Draw

                      21/25 = 84%

                      GGG vs Canelo 2

                      34 for GGG
                      2 Canelo
                      15 Draw

                      34/51 =67%

                      Why is this I wonder? I saw GGG beat Canelo easily the first time around and GGG beat Canelo again despite the fact Canelo performed better.

                      That opinion matches the consensus. How about yours?
                      Well said and thought out.

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