Serious question for those who don't like GGG/his resume

[jmart93]

Soooooo canelo shouldn’t be considered so great either, right guys???? If he barely beat an overrated GGG??? Am I right or wrong? I’m a GGG fan, but think he is at the end of his career. Won’t beat canelo but he will still give him a good fight. That’s why canelo doesn’t want the fight... well not right now lol

[Boxing_1013]

Yeah you're right, I jumped the gun with the prime argument.

But anyway, my main point is this, Hagler lost to 2 journeyman and GGG did not.

Edit: Hagler was 22 years old and 27 fights in when he took his first L, he was in his prime no doubt about it.

Good points...age wise I would say he was maybe a bit under prime, but fights wise you could easily say he was prime...agree about GGG as well, part of why I have always rated him so highly is because he never had a slip up against the high number of quality fighters he faced...from other fighters I have studied, that is very rare, even for other ATGs

[Boxing_1013]

Yea...whether anyone likes it or not, being exposed to trolls and so much negativity, feelings toward fighters and the sport in general can only be diminished. Nobody comes away from social media or forums like this with their love for the sport bolstered.

Very true...it is a very nasty environment on here at times...I try to just block that stuff out but it does permeate.

If a fan has to defend their hero, that says it all.

Lol I don't have any poster of GGG up in my house man...I just have analyzed his career and think it is pretty clear he was/is great...some of the criticism he receives on here is odd imo, and I just pointed out here one instance where I felt the criticism doesn't seem to match the facts of the situation.

I think about 90% of people who get on GGG on here are unreasonable, so trust me I have no real intention of trying to reason with them lol...the dude has/had flaws but the hate he gets for how great he has been is odd imo.

[icha]

Soooooo canelo shouldn’t be considered so great either, right guys???? If he barely beat an overrated GGG??? Am I right or wrong? I’m a GGG fan, but think he is at the end of his career. Won’t beat canelo but he will still give him a good fight. That’s why canelo doesn’t want the fight... well not right now lol

canelos legacy doesnt revolve around ggg, he is only 29 and on the right path...

[Clegg]

I mostly rate guys based upon best wins. Losses do matter, but Hagler was dominant in his run as champ, only Duran lasted the distance, and his early losses were close, enough that the best version of Hagler from a few years later likely beats those guys

[Boxing_1013]

I mostly rate guys based upon best wins. Losses do matter, but Hagler was dominant in his run as champ, only Duran lasted the distance, and his early losses were close, enough that the best version of Hagler from a few years later likely beats those guys

Fair enough, good comment

[ruedboy]

the gggroupies dont care, they blalantly ignore this. .

Same day weigh in changes the game for almost every pro fighter but especially for boxers like Alvarez who have the ability to cut weight and use the 24 hours to rehydrate 12-15 pounds or more.

[icha]

Same day weigh in changes the game for almost every pro fighter but especially for boxers like Alvarez who have the ability to cut weight and use the 24 hours to rehydrate 12-15 pounds or more.

im not the one claiming canelo is goat at mw...
also alvarez dared to move up to fight bigger foes, ggg is the ethernal mw... last time both fighters had a rehydration weighin ggg strugled and canelo did not...

[ruedboy]

im not the one claiming canelo is goat at mw...
also alvarez dared to move up to fight bigger foes, ggg is the ethernal mw... last time both fighters had a rehydration weighin ggg strugled and canelo did not...

None of Alvarez'a opponents was ever surprised at how small he was.
It was always the opposite.

[icha]

None of Alvarez'a opponents was ever surprised at how small he was.
It was always the opposite.

say what you will but alvarez has really challenged him self and continues to do so... and he is not the one running around bragging about how he beats anyone from 154 to 168 while never moving a finger outside the same division...
and one last thing, this thread is not about alvarez, is about golovkin and someone claiming he is goat at mw...