Have Canelo and GGG beaten any decent top boxer convincingly?

[Jsmooth9876]

Guess what, that's what happens when elite guys fight other elite guys.

We didn't see Errol Sence walk through Shawn Porter eith ease either did we?

The elite have better chins, better boxing ability and they're just better at everything compared to B level contenders.

That's what separate the true greats like Mayweather and Pac when they go in and dominate other elite fighters. It makes them ATG..

Right now GGG and Canelo are HOF fighters but they're not close to being ATG

[BangEM]

Guess what, that's what happens when elite guys fight other elite guys.

We didn't see Errol Sence walk through Shawn Porter eith ease either did we?

The elite have better chins, better boxing ability and they're just better at everything compared to B level contenders.

That's what separate the true greats like Mayweather and Pac when they go in and dominate other elite fighters. It makes them ATG..

Right now GGG and Canelo are HOF fighters but they're not close to being ATG

When did Spence and Porter become elite boxers? LMAO. You mean the same Porter that got beat up by Kell Brook is an elite boxer? If he's, then I think Amir "Glass-chin" Khan is super-elite because I believe he beats Brook everyday of the week even when Brook wasn't damaged. Brook has to be super-elite as well since he beat Porter. But I've got news for you: the both are average. LMAO.

Spence is **** average despite fighting below his natural weight class. Spence is the Broner of the lightweight division.

[Jsmooth9876]

When did Spence and Porter become elite boxers? LMAO. You mean the same Porter that got beat up by Kell Brook is an elite boxer? If he's, then I think Amir "Glass-chin" Khan is super-elite because I believe he beats Brook everyday of the week even when Brook wasn't damaged. Brook has to be super-elite as well since he beat Porter. But I've got news for you: the both are average. LMAO.

Spence is **** average despite fighting below his natural weight class. Spence is the Broner of the lightweight division.

You're putting your opinions into a statement of fact.

Porter has never been beaten convincingly despite fighting almost every top guy in his division. That makes him elite. Amir khan has been battered and knocked unconscious by elite level fighters.

Your opinion of getting beat up is a bit exaggerated that's for sure...

[BangEM]

You're putting your opinions into a statement of fact.

Porter has never been beaten convincingly despite fighting almost every top guy in his division. That makes him elite. Amir khan has been battered and knocked unconscious by elite level fighters.

Your opinion of getting beat up is a bit exaggerated that's for sure...

LMAO at Porter being elite. WHo did he beat to attain that status? And did he lose to Brook - yes or no?

khan has a better resume than Porter will ever have and he's not elite. Ditto Brook who beat Porter. You yanks just love overrating your bums. LMAO.

[chrisJS]

I'd say, probably not. Golovkin over Jacobs felt like a 115-112 type fight. Canelo was about 115-113 or 114-114 with Jacobs. Golovkin-Deryevchenko was about a one point either way type fight. Canelo vs. Lara felt like 115-113 Lara clearly. Against each other fight I was probably the closest with Golovkin winning probably 116-112, the re-match being a round closer. Most would say Golovkin isn't "top class" either. Trout? A top fighter? Not sure, and that was very close. A number of folks felt Trout edged it and certainly was hindered by the terrible open scoring which forced him to fight a different fight. Brook? Not as a middleweight, really.

Both are good boxers but not as good as they are supposed to be or as good as their fanboys want them to be. Think about it. Golovkin is supposed to be terrible. Just really, really bad, yet Canelo's best "win" is a debatable decision in which the majority felt he lost and that came after a clear loss in a gift "draw" during a time he was caught on PED's and GGG was clearly slipping. So, if GGG is terrible then Jacobs is even worse, so we are left with Lara? His resume is worse than Golovkin's. This is the conundrum these Canelo fans/Mayweather fans/Golovkin haters/Eastern Euro haters put themselves in. They are blown away by Canelo's "resume" based on some iffy decisions over this terrible fighter and Lara. His skills aren't as spellbinding as they say either otherwise he'd wash fighters of that caliber.

This board has Canelo a top 10/20 ATG, greater already than Robinson, Duran, Pacquaio I've already seen so why is he officially one round away from losing to a bum like GGG and then in his "signature win" one round away from another official draw and the same with Jacobs who obviously can't be any good. Golovkin at best is a top 25-30 all-time middleweight not the second coming of Hagler or Monzon his fans wanted to believe.

[boliodogs]

WTF are you talking about man? What about gggs KO percentage? It’s 100 percent when fighting bums and 0 percent when taking real competition

So you are saying everyone GGG ever knocked out was a bum????? Some of the guys he knocked out were champions or rated in the top 5 middleweights in the world. Some of the guys he knocked out nobody else ever knocked out. Murray was a top 5 world rated middleweight and only GGG ever knocked him. Nobody else ever knocked Murray out in all the fights he had. Nobody but GGG ever knocked out Monroe. Lemieux was a champion when GGG knocked him out and he is certainly not a bum today being rated in the top 5 at 168 and before that at 160. Macxklin and Geale were also top 5 world rated middleweights when GGG fought them. It's only after GGG knocks these guys out do haters suddenly say they were bums. Champions and top 5 world rated contenders are not bums.

[boliodogs]

Canelo beat Jacobs, Cotto, Trout and GGG convincingly.

GGG has beat no top name convincingly

The majority of people who saw the fights think GGG beat Canelo in both fights. When most viewers think he lost he clearly did NOT win convincingly. I thought Canelo did beat Cotto, Jacobs and Cotto convincingly. GGG outlanded Canelo in 10 of the 12 rounds in the 2nd fight. Nobody but huge Canelo fans like you are convinced Canelo beat him. GGG beat Jacobs convincingly in Jacobs's home state by ud again landing more punches than Jacobs in most rounds and scoring the knock down as well. He won by 3 points on two cards. You are just this crazy GGG hater and Canelo lover. The biggest GGG hater and Canelo lover on here. I don't expect a fair or intelligent opinion from you.

[boliodogs]

Sorry, meant to say Canelo beat Trout, Cotto and Jacobs convincingly in my opinion.

[djif]

Yep. Ggg beat Derev quite convincingly. Given how he looked like after the fight..

[JohnCastellanos]

So you are saying everyone GGG ever knocked out was a bum????? Some of the guys he knocked out were champions or rated in the top 5 middleweights in the world. Some of the guys he knocked out nobody else ever knocked out. Murray was a top 5 world rated middleweight and only GGG ever knocked him. Nobody else ever knocked Murray out in all the fights he had. Nobody but GGG ever knocked out Monroe. Lemieux was a champion when GGG knocked him out and he is certainly not a bum today being rated in the top 5 at 168 and before that at 160. Macxklin and Geale were also top 5 world rated middleweights when GGG fought them. It's only after GGG knocks these guys out do haters suddenly say they were bums. Champions and top 5 world rated contenders are not bums.

A lot of those guys are viewed as bums because they were far from gggs level