Which boxer deserves less hate then he actually gets?

[ruedboy]

This ^. I might hate a guy who harmed myself or my loved ones... if I was gonna broaden it a bit I might be thinking about the mfers who start wars for profit or exploit the vulnerable.. but to hate on the professional sportsman who risk injury and even death to bring me the spectacle of the sport I love?

I'm never gonna understand that ****.

I put it down to immaturity coupled with monumental ******ity. :-)

[R-Hand Southpaw]

99% of "fans" couldnt pick Poo Poo or Mall out of a lineup.

YOU might want to see those fights, because deep down you hope a light skinned euro might get whupped by one of those 2, but lets not act like there is some big demand for Andrade or Charlo. Neither guy could draw ants to a picnic.

And im fine with either fight getting made, I just dont think there is much demand.

Don't even pay attention to that guy. Hes has nothing to offer than a garbage opinion and hate against any white boxer who is good.

Take his hate for GGG for example. Cant stop calling GGG pvssy G and making fun of his resume while touting Andrade and Charlo as some boogey men.

Hell ask. Who has GGG fought?

Yet is too ****** to look at the big picture and ask himself, who has Charlo or Andrade fought? Which by the way is nobody and both sport a resume FAR inferior to GGG.

But they're black and they're talked about enough. Now theyre champions too!

They must be big bad guys who GGG ducked!

But hes too ****** to realize that GGG didnt duck them because they didnt even get to the division until 2017 and GGG was stuck up with Jacob's and Canelo.

Guy is also too ****** to ask himself. Who has Andrade and Charlo fought at 160 to showcase how dangerous they are?

And the answer again to that is nobody.

He hates GGG because hes white.

[Marchegiano]

Just gonna do my own semi related thing here


Unfairly Hated HWs:

James Figg - It's still being reported that there is no surviving record of Figg actually boxing. I dunno where that bull came from, yes there is.

Ned 'The Pipemaker' Sutton - 1724

Robert 'The Pugilist' Whittaker - 1725

Nathaniel Peartree - 1726

John Gritton - 1727

Tom 'The Claimant' Pipes - 1730

Bill Gretting - 1730

None of these guys are recognized by very respected publications because their history is "difficult". Man who beat the man isn't, they're all champions.


Daniel The *** Mendoza: ***ish during the Spanish Inquisition. A Londoner hated by his fellow Englishman. Daniel invented ticketing, media hype, and the basis for modern boxing defense. He lost his title to an aristocratic conspiracy and to this day his advents are accredited to others like Ali and Mayweather.

Tom Molineaux - Black American in 1810s England, enough said.

James Burke - Another Englishman, born in London as well, hated for not possessing enough "englishness" but really because he was deaf. This man was the greatest handicapped boxer to have ever lived and to this day makes a strong claim to that. No one knows, no one cares.

Yankee Sullivan - Chased down and vigilente'd for having seconded a fellow european in a match against an American where the euro killed the us fighter. Yankee Sullivan was murdered in a cell while awaiting trial. He was a true badass, one of the men the cowboy stories historians now claim never happened to cowboys were based on. Yep, no cow chasing sissy ever fought an entire bar or gang, Yankee, the Irish-American boxer did though. Yankee Sullivan was the victim of America's first Anti-immigration political wave.

Pete Maher was well respected but to this day his whole lineage is stripped from record books to honor the Corbett return. Kinda BS.

The Colorline: Don Knox, CC smith, Morris Grant, Charles Hadley, George Godfrey, John Haynes, Frank Childs, Joe Jeannette, Sam Langford, Sam Mcvey, Obie Walker, Harry Wills, Bill Tate, Larry Gains, The Other George Godfrey, the mac daddy and the daddy mac of them all Jack the unforgivable blackness Johnson.

[Mammoth]

The Loma, Crawford and Spence hate is strange to me. The rest is all because of their fans and less to do with the actual fighters.

[Willy Wanker]

All of them

Good answer, my man.

[alexnation]

Do any fighters actually deserve hate? What a very strange way to phrase the thread title.

It wasn't meant in the literal meaning of the word. read hate = poorly backed or completely baseless criticism that is so widely spread on this forum

[M Bison]

Charlie Zelenoff, he gets way too much stick online. He held his own well against Mayweather Sr and never got KOed by Wilder even though Wilder had like 60lbs on him. Time to respect true warriors like the money Z.

[Citizen Koba]

It wasn't meant in the literal meaning of the word. read hate = poorly backed or completely baseless criticism that is so widely spread on this forum

I guess I was probably being a lil facetious, but still... I was on a thread the other day with guys literally saying 'I hate...(insert fighter name)' I mean, wtf is that about?

In the looser way it's used around here I still say it's unwarranted - I know in the main the intent of posting that shit about fighters is aimed at getting under the skin of other posters rather than down to any real animosity towards the fighters, but there's plenty of posters who seem to manage without that ish... it's quite possible to steer a course around the 'hate' whilst still offering fair praise and warranted criticism, but I think there's just some of the dudes on here actually like the back and forth and perhaps get so absorbed in it they lose sight of what *******s they're making of themselves.

[alexnation]

Just gonna do my own semi related thing here


Unfairly Hated HWs:

James Figg - It's still being reported that there is no surviving record of Figg actually boxing. I dunno where that bull came from, yes there is.

Ned 'The Pipemaker' Sutton - 1724

Robert 'The Pugilist' Whittaker - 1725

Nathaniel Peartree - 1726

John Gritton - 1727

Tom 'The Claimant' Pipes - 1730

Bill Gretting - 1730

None of these guys are recognized by very respected publications because their history is "difficult". Man who beat the man isn't, they're all champions.


Daniel The *** Mendoza: ***ish during the Spanish Inquisition. A Londoner hated by his fellow Englishman. Daniel invented ticketing, media hype, and the basis for modern boxing defense. He lost his title to an aristocratic conspiracy and to this day his advents are accredited to others like Ali and Mayweather.

Tom Molineaux - Black American in 1810s England, enough said.

James Burke - Another Englishman, born in London as well, hated for not possessing enough "englishness" but really because he was deaf. This man was the greatest handicapped boxer to have ever lived and to this day makes a strong claim to that. No one knows, no one cares.

Yankee Sullivan - Chased down and vigilente'd for having seconded a fellow european in a match against an American where the euro killed the us fighter. Yankee Sullivan was murdered in a cell while awaiting trial. He was a true badass, one of the men the cowboy stories historians now claim never happened to cowboys were based on. Yep, no cow chasing sissy ever fought an entire bar or gang, Yankee, the Irish-American boxer did though. Yankee Sullivan was the victim of America's first Anti-immigration political wave.

Pete Maher was well respected but to this day his whole lineage is stripped from record books to honor the Corbett return. Kinda BS.

The Colorline: Don Knox, CC smith, Morris Grant, Charles Hadley, George Godfrey, John Haynes, Frank Childs, Joe Jeannette, Sam Langford, Sam Mcvey, Obie Walker, Harry Wills, Bill Tate, Larry Gains, The Other George Godfrey, the mac daddy and the daddy mac of them all Jack the unforgivable blackness Johnson.

where did you get that info from? not going to lie, I can't recognize any names in your post

[alexnation]

I guess I was probably being a lil facetious, but still... I was on a thread the other day with guys literally saying 'I hate...(insert fighter name)' I mean, wtf is that about?

In the looser way it's used around here I still say it's unwarranted - I know in the main the intent of posting that shit about fighters is aimed at getting under the skin of other posters rather than down to any real animosity towards the fighters, but there's plenty of posters who seem to manage without that ish... it's quite possible to steer a course around the 'hate' whilst still offering fair praise and warranted criticism, but I think there's just some of the dudes on here actually like the back and forth and perhaps get so absorbed in it they lose sight of what *******s they're making of themselves.

Totally with you on this one, brother. You can't justify pointless hate of someone you don't even know. It's a toxic feeling and it poisons people