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  • Real King Kong
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    #151
    Originally posted by MurkaMan
    I dont think Diego was a D level fighter. Not only that, but him and Floyd were both at their natural weight classes in their primes, and Floyd battered him. Whether your in your prime or past your prime, SRL rarely batters anyone!

    But just like you wanna pick apart SRL for facing Hagler past his prime, the same way we gotta talk about SRL when he himself was past his prime. Oh but wait, you said "I only care about what SRL did in his prime."

    Unlike SRL, Floyd got old, the opponents got tougher, younger, stronger, and Floyd was even more dominant!

    See Idgaf about Floyd vs Diego or Genero at 135. I only mentioned it since your the one who brought up fighters in their primes facing eachother.

    But these fights didnt make Floyd the goat. His fights when he was past his prime, out of his weight class, late 30s, just schooling men who would typically KO other greats at the same circumstantial disadvantages!

    I could care less about when Floyd was in his prime and beating Genero or Diego. If he was as good as they said he was, he should've at least won by default. Of course he doesnt win, he dominates.

    But what he did when he was older, and who he did it against? Greatest to ever step in the ring!

    But when you try to be slick and manipulate the conversation, when someone calls you out on it, NEVER admit to it dumbo! Looking back at those posts, surely you could've responded better than that!
    Like I said, you have to keep going back to some outlier ****...bringing up what Floyd did at a later age to try to compare with these guys facing prime atg opponents. The longevity is impressive, but it doesn’t offset what a guy like Leonard did in his prime. There’s a reason he’s rated so much higher on atg lists.

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    • MurkaMan
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      #152
      Originally posted by Real King Kong
      Like I said, you have to keep going back to some outlier ****...bringing up what Floyd did at a later age to try to compare with these guys facing prime atg opponents. The longevity is impressive, but it doesn’t offset what a guy like Leonard did in his prime. There’s a reason he’s rated so much higher on atg lists.
      No. When I discuss a fighter's greatness I focus on how good they were, how tough their opponent's were, their dominance, skills etc... a slew of things. I dont structure a criteria strictly to work against Floyd, when his legacy is different, and even better tbh!

      What Floyd did at a later age, is what basically ended the debate for me personally. Because it was abnormal!

      For you, you rate SRL for what he did when he was in his prime, since he cant outdo Floyd, and thats fine. For me, I wouldnt feel Floyd was the GOAT if those fights at his late 30's didnt happen, because its what distances him from every fighter in history!

      It was unreal what we witnessed, and Im just happy it happened live in my era! GoatShyt!!

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        #153
        Originally posted by MurkaMan
        No. When I discuss a fighter's greatness I focus on how good they were, how tough their opponent's were, their dominance, skills etc... a slew of things. I dont structure a criteria strictly to work against Floyd, when his legacy is different, and even better tbh!

        What Floyd did at a later age, is what basically ended the debate for me personally. Because it was abnormal!

        For you, you rate SRL for what he did when he was in his prime, since he cant outdo Floyd, and thats fine. For me, I wouldnt feel Floyd was the GOAT if those fights at his late 30's didnt happen, because its what distances him from every fighter in history!

        It was unreal what we witnessed, and Im just happy it happened live in my era! GoatShyt!!
        Whatever you say...I guess your “criteria” is different than everyone else’s. we’ll never know how Floyd would fare vs other atg level guys in their prime, cuz he never faced any.

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          #154
          Originally posted by Real King Kong
          Whatever you say...I guess your “criteria” is different than everyone else’s. we’ll never know how Floyd would fare vs other atg level guys in their prime, cuz he never faced any.
          I dont think people have a legit criteria. I think people specifically structured a criteria for the sole purpose of nitpicking Floyd. But according to you, and them SRR never faced one neither.

          Floyd however, doesnt need that on his resume, considering the fact that he simply blows everyone out of the water in terms of legacy, resume, dominance, and skills!

          And 100 out of 100 times, Floyd is factually invincible. This is a proven fact. 20 years, 50 fights, pure dominance and humiliation.

          Considering the fact that he did that against the toughest resume ever, I think he at the very least WINS vs every ATG in history and you'd be insane to disagree. On average, he dominates and humiliates them!

          #TBEShyt

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            #155
            Originally posted by MurkaMan
            I dont think people have a legit criteria. I think people specifically structured a criteria for the sole purpose of nitpicking Floyd. But according to you, and them SRR never faced one neither.

            Floyd however, doesnt need that on his resume, considering the fact that he simply blows everyone out of the water in terms of legacy, resume, dominance, and skills!

            And 100 out of 100 times, Floyd is factually invincible. This is a proven fact. 20 years, 50 fights, pure dominance and humiliation.

            Considering the fact that he did that against the toughest resume ever, I think he at the very least WINS vs every ATG in history and you'd be insane to disagree. On average, he dominates and humiliates them!

            #TBEShyt
            Well it’s to bad he’s 20-30 spots below Leonard on most lists lol. “Toughest resume ever” doe...

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              #156
              Originally posted by Real King Kong
              Well it’s to bad he’s 20-30 spots below Leonard on most lists lol. “Toughest resume ever” doe...
              I disagree with that. I think Most have him top 5 ATG, but no one really broke down the resumes to see how he blows everyone out of the water.

              Thats why when we have conversations like these, more and more people will see it for what it is. Even people who read our interactions. And wait till he goes to the HOF, its going to be "praise Floyd" season!

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                #157
                Originally posted by MurkaMan
                I disagree with that. I think Most have him top 5 ATG, but no one really broke down the resumes to see how he blows everyone out of the water.

                Thats why when we have conversations like these, more and more people will see it for what it is. Even people who read our interactions. And wait till he goes to the HOF, its going to be "praise Floyd" season!
                who's "most "? you? his career is over...it can be assessed accordingly. he's not going to add anything meaningful that will elevate over guys duran or leonard.

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                  #158
                  Originally posted by Real King Kong
                  who's "most "? you? his career is over...it can be assessed accordingly. he's not going to add anything meaningful that will elevate over guys duran or leonard.
                  Not me. I have him GOAT, far beyond even the number 1 spot. This brother is a-7 compared to everyone in history, its just astonishing what he did.

                  I rarely see people put soft ass, quitting ass Duran over Floyd homie Lol This guy went up in weight and got his azzwhipped by everyone except for one dude Lol

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                  • Real King Kong
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                    #159
                    Originally posted by MurkaMan
                    Not me. I have him GOAT, far beyond even the number 1 spot. This brother is a-7 compared to everyone in history, its just astonishing what he did.

                    I rarely see people put soft ass, quitting ass Duran over Floyd homie Lol This guy went up in weight and got his azzwhipped by everyone except for one dude Lol
                    “Rarely see people”? Lol. Find me an atg list that has Floyd rated higher than Duran.

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                      #160
                      his biggest opponent was him knocking out deadbeats until he was 34.

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