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  • #61
    Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
    charlo vs andrade & plant vs benavidez or mixing in Smith would be ideal as a boxing fan.
    If I'm Charlo's people I never put him in against Andrade unless he gets maybe a new trainer.

    Charlo, for someone who has Lara as a regular sparring partner, has looked absolutely trash against slick southpaws (Koborov, Trout), just barely squeeking by.

    Andrade would tear him a new arsehole.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
      Team ggg and dazn underestimated the diva behavior of Canelo and overestimated his desire to want to try and get a non controversial win over ggg. Now they're screwed. Under normal circumstances, a big name in the sport prefers to clear up that kind of controversy. It's why mayweather ran it back immediately vs castillo and maidana. Why pac has 3 fights vs morales and 4 vs Marquez. Canelo clearly isn't cut from that same kind of cloth. He prefers to take his controversial win and move on. Like he did with Lara and now with ggg. Hopefully after he fights Kovalev, he'll actually focus on fighters who are in their primes like an andrade charlo, Smith, benavidez, plant, etc.
      More like GGG overplayed his hand with his B side diva antics. Canelo had already gone above and beyond to appease GGG in the rematch who approached negotiations like it was his final all the marbles cash in, to the extent that he was threatening (and completely willing) to kill the fight altogether in order to milk every last cent from his purse already inflated purse.

      Canelo went ahead and gave him his inflated purse to get him to sign, let him have a hand in selecting the judges, and not only fought him Mexican style like their team insisted, he went ahead and brought the fight to him and beat him according to the standards his team put forth. But again, coming off the loss, he turned around and was also trying to dictate the location for a third even though his own trainer acknowledged it was a fair decision? GTFO GGG is the only fighter whose demands increase the more he loses.

      Also, I don't know why you'd bring up Floyd or Pac when none of those guys appeased a B side diva on the level of GGG. To put things into perspective, Pac-Marquez 3 sold 1.4M ppvs yet Marquez accepted a $6M guarantee vs 26M for Pac for the 4th one.


      Originally posted by alexjust View Post
      Its called negotiations. This is what confident people who know what value they bring, do. They don't stand with a hat collecting dimes. I guess you need to work anywhere other than Walmart to know that you get what you negotiate. The fact that he doesn't want to fight Canelo in Vegas... sweet Jeesus, it would be weird if he was ok with Vegas. 118-110 says hello.
      The Walmart worker in this equation is GGG who's the low man on the totem after getting beaten by Canelo at his own game. But hey, if you want to defend GGG taking minimal risks when in the A side role, and as the B side making demands that no B side fighter has ever been entitled to then go for it, but don't make excuses for his weak resume. GGG and his fans are really made for each other since he's never been particularly ambitious while they have low standards for him.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Caxcan View Post
        More like GGG overplayed his hand with his B side diva antics. Canelo had already gone above and beyond to appease GGG in the rematch who approached negotiations like it was his final all the marbles cash in, to the extent that he was threatening (and completely willing) to kill the fight altogether in order to milk every last cent from his purse already inflated purse.

        Canelo went ahead and gave him his inflated purse to get him to sign, let him have a hand in selecting the judges, and not only fought him Mexican style like their team insisted, he went ahead and brought the fight to him and beat him according to the standards his team put forth. But again, coming off the loss, he turned around and was also trying to dictate the location for a third even though his own trainer acknowledged it was a fair decision? GTFO GGG is the only fighter whose demands increase the more he loses.

        Also, I don't know why you'd bring up Floyd or Pac when none of those guys appeased a B side diva on the level of GGG. To put things into perspective, Pac-Marquez 3 sold 1.4M ppvs yet Marquez accepted a $6M guarantee vs 26M for Pac for the 4th one.




        The Walmart worker in this equation is GGG who's the low man on the totem after getting beaten by Canelo at his own game. But hey, if you want to defend GGG taking minimal risks when in the A side role, and as the B side making demands that no B side fighter has ever been entitled to then go for it, but don't make excuses for his weak resume. GGG and his fans are really made for each other since he's never been particularly ambitious while they have low standards for him.
        wow, what a long novel about nothing. The point is, true competitors want to beat a rival convincingly, not be given a decision that many feel wasn't accurate. Canelo prefers to take his ball and go home. That doesn't show true championship heart like past top fighters. If ggg had gotten the decision in the same exact fight and then refused to fight Canelo a 3rd time, the same fans that are now defending Canelo would be calling ggg a chump and claim that's he's scared. Hypocrisy at its finest.

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