Why I hate GGG

[R-Hand Southpaw]

Irony is , Not only is he not white. He isn't even Eastern European. He is Asian (both ethnically and geographically). Mother is Korean and Kazakhstan is in ASIA not Europe.

When a racists see skin color it doesnt matter where you're from.

[DreamFighter]

So you are saying GGG is disliked not for anything he has done but because of his fans?

me - "it was noticed, its completely irrelevant to not liking his fans... which is not a reason for hating GGG.
you can call me out for not being relevant to the thread, but not for that."

so no, I clarified my post was 100% not relevant to hating GGG - so that post of your failed.

what might generate dislike toward his fans is them not reading posts.

[DreamFighter]

When a racists see skin color it doesnt matter where you're from.

let me know where the racist is, and I'll happily join the fight against them

[TonyGe]

Their a big list of reasons, and more than 75 percent of his detractors are probably ex fans of his who feel duuped by all the hyped up lies and the excuses. Most ppl don’t hate ggg, most ppl hate his fans who are probably the biggest propoganda pushers ever seen. Another portion of the hate comes from ppl who witnessed the ggg camp unfairly criticized Cotto and Canelo for supposedly being “Divas” but when it was Golovkins turn he turned out to be even more scared to lose his position. Canelo is truly making ggg look like a real flip flopping Coward and yes we know he’s old but so was Cotto and that didn’t stop gggs assault on the veteran. Now ggg is a promoter so expect him to have the exact same integrity as a used car salesmen. But looking back at his Career every thing makes sense now, he’s always been full of shet! Please name one honest thing that he did “make good on!” Cuzz all I remember is alotta bounced checks and thats his legacy IMO but his fan base can keep pretending all you want! “He is nothing compared to Canelo!” He dosnt have the heart. This is only some of what I can say, I’m not trying to trigger you ggg fans but if you ask I’ll will tell you

Cotto said he would not defend his Middleweight title unless it's at a Catchweight. To me that's outrageous.


https://www.espn.com/blog/dan-rafael...in-cotto-geale

From Bleacher Report.

For all the criticism and questions, Cotto remains completely unapologetic about requiring catchweights and warns that anyone—presumably Saul “Canelo” Alvarez or Gennady Golovkin—who wants to face him will have to accept them as part of his terms or hit the road.

Are you actually holding this guy up as somebidy to admire. He effectively cut out the majority of the Middleweight division as challengers.

[bballchump11]

His fans and media hype him up and excuse his weak resume while giving him accolades he hasn't earned. When you question him on his weak resume, he claims it's because he's feared when he turned down fights with Lara, Ward, Saunders, Andrade and Charlo.

He talks a lot of crap he has no intention on backing up like beating anybody from 154 to 168.

[R-Hand Southpaw]

wrong, so your entire post failed.

GGG/Canelo 1

Mookie Alexander
BloodyElbow.com 117-111 Golovkin
************.com 117-111 Golovkin
CBS Sports 117-111 Golovkin
Sherdog.com 116-112 Golovkin
Bryan Graham
The Guardian 116-112 Golovkin
Dan Rafael
ESPN.com 116-112 Golovkin
Ryan Frederick
WrestlingObserver.com 116-112 Golovkin
Harold Lederman
HBO 116-112 Golovkin
Kevin McRae
BleacherReport.com 116-112 Golovkin
Patrick Stumberg
MMAMania.com 116-112 Golovkin
Shaun Al-Shatti
MMAFighting.com 116-112 Golovkin
Kevin Mitchell
The Guardian 116-113 Golovkin
Kevin Iole
Yahoo.com 115-113 Golovkin
Paul Fontaine
WrestlingObserver.com 115-113 Golovkin
Mike Harris
si.com 115-113 Golovkin
Wil Esco
BadLeftHook.com 115-113 Golovkin
Patrick Wyman
BleacherReport.com 115-113 Golovkin
Phil Murphy
ESPN 115-113 Golovkin
Rob Tatum
CombatPress.com 115-113 Golovkin
Seán Sheehan
SevereMMA.com 115-113 Golovkin
MMABrasil.com.br 115-113 Golovkin
Chris Mannix
Yahoo! Sports 114-114 DRAW
Lance Pugmire
L.A. Times 114-114 DRAW
Associated Press 114-114 DRAW
Connor Ruebusch
BadLeftHook.com 113-115 Álvarez

21 GGG 3 Draw 1 Canelo


GGG/Canelo 2

Harold Lederman (HBO Sports): 116-112 Golovkin

Brian Campbell (CBS sports): 116-112 Golovkin

Dan Rafael (ESPN): 114-114 draw

Stephen A. Smith (ESPN): Golovkin won

Arash Markazi (ESPN): 114-114 draw

Brett Okamoto (ESPN): 114-114 draw

Teddy Atlas - Golovkin won

Salvador Rodríguez (ESPN Mexico): 114-114 draw

Jorge Eduardo Sánchez (ESPN Deportes): 114-114 draw

David Faitelson (ESPN Deportes): Golovkin won

Eduardo Lamazón (Televisa): 116-112 Golovkin

Gareth A Davies (The Telegraph): 116-112 Golovkin

Josh Peter (USA Today): 115-113 Golovkin

Sports Illustrated: 114-114 draw

Skip Bayless (Fox Sports 1): Golovkin won

Dylan Hernandez (LA Times): 115-113 Golovkin

Lance Pugmire (LA Times): 114-114 draw

BoxingScene: 114-114 draw

Chris Mannix (Yahoo! Sports): 115-113 Golovkin

Kevin Iole (Yahoo! Sports): 114-114 draw

The Guardian: 116-112 Golovkin

Joe DePaolo (Washington Post): 115-113 Golovkin

Mike Coppinger (Ring Magazine): 114-114 draw

Douglass Fischer (Ring Magazine): 114-114 draw

Mike Baca II (Ring Magazine and Undisputed Champion Network): 115-113 Golovkin

Mike Costello (BBC): 115-113 Golovkin

Steve Bunce (BBC): 114-114 draw

Al Bernstein (Showtime Sports): Golovkin won

Barry Jones (BT Sport): 116-112 Golovkin

Sherdog.com: 116-112 Golovkin

Jai Bednall (news.com.au): 115-113 Golovkin

Brian Mazique (Forbes): 114-114 draw

Adam Abramowitz (Ring Magazine and SN Boxing): 115-113 Golovkin

Tom Craze (Bad Left Hook): 116-112 Golovkin

Fraser Coffeen (Bloody Elbow): 115-113 Golovkin

Anton Tabuena (Bloody Elbow): 115-113 Golovkin

The Associated Press: 114-114 draw

Adam Caparell (Complex Sports): 116-112 Golovkin

Bill Simmons (HBO and The Ringer): 114-114 draw

Steven Muehlhausen (Sporting News): 116-112 Golovkin

Andreas Hale (Sporting News): Golovkin won

Graham Houston (Boxing Monthly): Canelo won

Michael Montero (MonteroOnBoxing): 115-113 Golovkin

Matt Christie (Boxing News): 115-114 Golovkin

George Willis (New York Post): 114-114 draw

Gary Melo (SportsNet Canada): Golovkin won

Below The Belt Podcast: 115-113 Golovkin

World Boxing News: 115-113 Golovkin

Jeff Powell (Daily Mail): 116-113 Golovkin

Marcos Villegas (Fight Hub TV): 114-114 draw

Michelle Rosado (Raging Babe): 115-113 Canelo

Michelle Joy Phelps (Behind the Gloves): 115-113 Golovkin

Lennox Lewis: Golovkin won by 2 rounds

Fight Nights: 115-113 Golovkin

Michael Woods (NYFights.com): two point edge for Golovkin

Dieter Kurtenbach (San Jose Mercury News and the East Bay Times): Golovkin won by 3 rounds

Rafael G (the Fight City): 116-112 Golovkin

Jesse Granger (Las Vegas Sun): 115-113 Golovkin

Jerry Izenberg (The NJ Advance Media): 115-113 Golovkin

40 for GGG, 2 for Canelo, 17 Draw

Even on this forum GGG won both fights

GGG1
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/p...s&pollid=49925

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.***...z-who-won/amp/

https://boxden.com/showthread.php?t=2527151

GGG2
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/p...s&pollid=51102

https://themmacommunity.com/threads/...anelo-2.53468/

Wrong your entire post failed.

Lmfao.

[JohnCastellanos]

Cotto said he would not defend his Middleweight title unless it's at a Catchweight. To me that's outrageous.


https://www.espn.com/blog/dan-rafael...in-cotto-geale

From Bleacher Report.

For all the criticism and questions, Cotto remains completely unapologetic about requiring catchweights and warns that anyone—presumably Saul “Canelo” Alvarez or Gennady Golovkin—who wants to face him will have to accept them as part of his terms or hit the road.

Are you actually holding this guy up as somebidy to admire. He effectively cut out the majority of the Middleweight division as challengers.

Now we both know ggg always claimed he could “easily” make 154. Was he lying about that? Maybe that’s why he was unwilling to try! But didn’t he say he would do it for Floyd? Like I said, too many hyped up lies! And so what if it was a catchweight! Didn’t ggg just have a catchweight fight vs Rolls @164? Was that ok for ggg to do with Rolls but it’s not Ok for Cotto who took massive punishment in his career VS a fresh ggg who never took punishment! Answer that please

[4truth]

Now we both know ggg always claimed he could “easily” make 154. Was he lying about that? Maybe that’s why he was unwilling to try! But didn’t he say he would do it for Floyd? Like I said, too many hyped up lies! Next!

If you are fighting for the 154 title, you fight at 154. Golovkin's original offer to go to 154 was an offer to the winner of Canelo/Floyd. So yeah, if Canelo had won the title, the offer was to him also.

[DreamFighter]

GGG/Canelo 1

Mookie Alexander
BloodyElbow.com 117-111 Golovkin
************.com 117-111 Golovkin
CBS Sports 117-111 Golovkin
Sherdog.com 116-112 Golovkin
Bryan Graham
The Guardian 116-112 Golovkin
Dan Rafael
ESPN.com 116-112 Golovkin
Ryan Frederick
WrestlingObserver.com 116-112 Golovkin
Harold Lederman
HBO 116-112 Golovkin
Kevin McRae
BleacherReport.com 116-112 Golovkin
Patrick Stumberg
MMAMania.com 116-112 Golovkin
Shaun Al-Shatti
MMAFighting.com 116-112 Golovkin
Kevin Mitchell
The Guardian 116-113 Golovkin
Kevin Iole
Yahoo.com 115-113 Golovkin
Paul Fontaine
WrestlingObserver.com 115-113 Golovkin
Mike Harris
si.com 115-113 Golovkin
Wil Esco
BadLeftHook.com 115-113 Golovkin
Patrick Wyman
BleacherReport.com 115-113 Golovkin
Phil Murphy
ESPN 115-113 Golovkin
Rob Tatum
CombatPress.com 115-113 Golovkin
Seán Sheehan
SevereMMA.com 115-113 Golovkin
MMABrasil.com.br 115-113 Golovkin
Chris Mannix
Yahoo! Sports 114-114 DRAW
Lance Pugmire
L.A. Times 114-114 DRAW
Associated Press 114-114 DRAW
Connor Ruebusch
BadLeftHook.com 113-115 Álvarez

21 GGG 3 Draw 1 Canelo


GGG/Canelo 2

Harold Lederman (HBO Sports): 116-112 Golovkin

Brian Campbell (CBS sports): 116-112 Golovkin

Dan Rafael (ESPN): 114-114 draw

Stephen A. Smith (ESPN): Golovkin won

Arash Markazi (ESPN): 114-114 draw

Brett Okamoto (ESPN): 114-114 draw

Teddy Atlas - Golovkin won

Salvador Rodríguez (ESPN Mexico): 114-114 draw

Jorge Eduardo Sánchez (ESPN Deportes): 114-114 draw

David Faitelson (ESPN Deportes): Golovkin won

Eduardo Lamazón (Televisa): 116-112 Golovkin

Gareth A Davies (The Telegraph): 116-112 Golovkin

Josh Peter (USA Today): 115-113 Golovkin

Sports Illustrated: 114-114 draw

Skip Bayless (Fox Sports 1): Golovkin won

Dylan Hernandez (LA Times): 115-113 Golovkin

Lance Pugmire (LA Times): 114-114 draw

BoxingScene: 114-114 draw

Chris Mannix (Yahoo! Sports): 115-113 Golovkin

Kevin Iole (Yahoo! Sports): 114-114 draw

The Guardian: 116-112 Golovkin

Joe DePaolo (Washington Post): 115-113 Golovkin

Mike Coppinger (Ring Magazine): 114-114 draw

Douglass Fischer (Ring Magazine): 114-114 draw

Mike Baca II (Ring Magazine and Undisputed Champion Network): 115-113 Golovkin

Mike Costello (BBC): 115-113 Golovkin

Steve Bunce (BBC): 114-114 draw

Al Bernstein (Showtime Sports): Golovkin won

Barry Jones (BT Sport): 116-112 Golovkin

Sherdog.com: 116-112 Golovkin

Jai Bednall (news.com.au): 115-113 Golovkin

Brian Mazique (Forbes): 114-114 draw

Adam Abramowitz (Ring Magazine and SN Boxing): 115-113 Golovkin

Tom Craze (Bad Left Hook): 116-112 Golovkin

Fraser Coffeen (Bloody Elbow): 115-113 Golovkin

Anton Tabuena (Bloody Elbow): 115-113 Golovkin

The Associated Press: 114-114 draw

Adam Caparell (Complex Sports): 116-112 Golovkin

Bill Simmons (HBO and The Ringer): 114-114 draw

Steven Muehlhausen (Sporting News): 116-112 Golovkin

Andreas Hale (Sporting News): Golovkin won

Graham Houston (Boxing Monthly): Canelo won

Michael Montero (MonteroOnBoxing): 115-113 Golovkin

Matt Christie (Boxing News): 115-114 Golovkin

George Willis (New York Post): 114-114 draw

Gary Melo (SportsNet Canada): Golovkin won

Below The Belt Podcast: 115-113 Golovkin

World Boxing News: 115-113 Golovkin

Jeff Powell (Daily Mail): 116-113 Golovkin

Marcos Villegas (Fight Hub TV): 114-114 draw

Michelle Rosado (Raging Babe): 115-113 Canelo

Michelle Joy Phelps (Behind the Gloves): 115-113 Golovkin

Lennox Lewis: Golovkin won by 2 rounds

Fight Nights: 115-113 Golovkin

Michael Woods (NYFights.com): two point edge for Golovkin

Dieter Kurtenbach (San Jose Mercury News and the East Bay Times): Golovkin won by 3 rounds

Rafael G (the Fight City): 116-112 Golovkin

Jesse Granger (Las Vegas Sun): 115-113 Golovkin

Jerry Izenberg (The NJ Advance Media): 115-113 Golovkin

40 for GGG, 2 for Canelo, 17 Draw

Even on this forum GGG won both fights

GGG1
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/p...s&pollid=49925

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.***...z-who-won/amp/

https://boxden.com/showthread.php?t=2527151

GGG2
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/p...s&pollid=51102

https://themmacommunity.com/threads/...anelo-2.53468/

Wrong your entire post failed.

Lmfao.

i'd appreciate you taking back your assumption on which your entire post was based now so its no longer a fail.

thx.

[TonyGe]

Now we both know ggg always claimed he could “easily” make 154. Was he lying about that? Maybe that’s why he was unwilling to try! But didn’t he say he would do it for Floyd? Like I said, too many hyped up lies! And so what if it was a catchweight! Didn’t ggg just have a catchweight fight vs Rolls @164? Was that ok for ggg to do with Rolls but it’s not Ok for Cotto who took massive punishment in his career VS a fresh ggg who never took punishment! Answer that please

#1 Cotto was defending his title. I have said as far back as several years ago that title fights for rankings or titles should not be held at catchweights.
two guys want to make some money together go ahead as long as rankings and titles aren't at stake sure go for it. It's too damned bad that Cotto took punishment in his career. If he was a better fighter or used better judgement that wouldn't have happened. So yeah it's fair. As far as Rolls goes there was no title at stake. Was it for ranking?? Don't know. All I know is, it did not disadvantage Rolls because he has fought as high as LH before. What disadvantaged Rolls was he wasn't at Golovkin's level and had no chance of winning.