Comments Thread For: Hopkins, Marquez Among Loaded First-Time Hall of Fame Ballot Entries

[Chuckguy]

For me Bradley Martinez Vasquez Chico and froch shouldn’t be in I might be missing a name or two

[Sid-Knee]

That's easy. Only 3 of them are HOF worthy. Froch, Hopkins and Marquez. I don't include drug cheats like Mosley.

[Sid-Knee]

Carl Froch?... lol

You're calling the name of the fighter who has earned it but not the names of those that haven't?

LOL at you.

[Sid-Knee]

Nah, Bradley beat Manny the 1st fight. He could of box Manny the 2nd fight but decided to trade which is ****** & again when he decided to trade with Provo he got hurt but still won the fight.

Lesson of the day is fvk what the fans say about "boring" style cuz all that matters is the W....

Bradley beat Manny the first time? Hahahahahahahahaha.

You stay American and Black, you hear me? LOL.

[Mister Wolf]

Can't cristisize Bradley getting in when Arturo Gatti got in immediately. They even waved the mandatory years one should wait to get in for him. Bradley's career s**ts all over gattis and it's not even close.

But Gatti is Italian and went life and death three times with another underachieving journeyman tough guy.

[Dodger07]

Absolute shoe-ins
Bernard Hopkins
Juan Manuel Marquez

Probable Entry
Shane Mosley

Possible Entries
Timothy Bradley Jr.
Carl Froch
Sergio Martinez

[Sid-Knee]

He beat Memo’s Marquez. The one with the acne on his back. The one that put Pacquiao to sleep.

Bradley was underdog in that fight and beat him clean and easy.

Unified w Kendall Holt. Then was stripped.

Unified w Devon Alexander giving him his first L. Again stripped.

I think TB had a nice career. Not FBHOF nice, but pretty nice. Dude probably had about 4-5 title reigns across two divisions and they weren’t against a bunch of bums and no hopers. He he beat someone like Cotto at 154 I would say he’d be a HOF lock. But as it stands I def think he gets in sooner rather than later.

Bradley wasn't the first to beat Devon. That was Kotelnik, but he was robbed.

[Sid-Knee]

There are some good names there. You do have a point. Abaraham was a good win. Bute was a defining win. Pascal was a great win.

Kessler was done done.
Taylor.... come on man
Gelncoffe ? No sir.

He just was never the top guy in his division, and he only won titles in that single division. That isn’t great. I think an argument can be made that most of the other fighters on this list were multi division champs and the best fighter in one of those divisions at one point. I won’t pretend like I know who Vuyani Bungu is. But the rest of those guys were at the top of their divisions at one point, including Tim Bradley at 140. It was a two man race at 140 w Khan and Bradley, and Bradley beat Lamont while Khan lost to him and proceeded to get stopped by Danny in his next fight.

Should take more than being the second or third best guy in your division your entire career in order to sit amongst the boxing Gods.

Sorry, but Kessler wasn't done. Was he past his best? Yes, but done? Not at all. It was a very good win. Taylor was in his prime. That was a great win. I don't want to hear the nonsense of him being done to downplay the win after everyone said he'd destroy Froch and send him packing. Johnson had his one last hurrah so it was a good win. Froch is definitely a great fighter who is a shoe in for the hall. His resume says it all. How anyone could argue against it is beyond me.

Hearns was never the best at his weight either. But he's in the hall. However, I saw Froch as the number 1 guy after Ward needing to be DQ'd in the Kessler fight so he remains the top guy. Then you factor in Ward ducking Bute so I moved him ahead of Ward too. Froch then goes on and beats both taking the top spot. Froch offered Ward a rematch in England but Ward being afraid to travel as we know, wouldn't go for it. He did try and make it look as though he would. But when he said he'd only fight Froch at Wembley stadium, it was clear what a clown Ward was with his talking nonsense.

Bradley was never the number 1 guy at either 140 or 147. Khan was the best at 140 but Bradley ducked it. Remember the "But what if I lose" bullshlt he was speaking after mouthing off beforehand? Sorry, but this is just crazy. Froch has the superior resume. It's not even up for debate.

[Sid-Knee]

I don't like it. Should weight 5 years to enter. Ward or Bradley can make it, but are still young enough to make a comeback. I rather it be a 5 year wait, which would make it less likely that the fighter comes out of retirement. Let the George Foreman accomplishment be a feat no other fighter can duplicate.

Speaking of George Foreman. He retired in 1977 and came back in 1987. He didn't make the HOF after his first stint in boxing although he was dominant. He retired again in 1997 and didn't make the Hall of Fame until 2004. 25 years after he turned pro.

Ward and Bradley belong nowhere near to the hall. Neither have a strong enough resume. Robberies and cheating shouldn't be overlooked.

Foreman was dominant after his come-back? George was beaten by everyone who had any credibility until former Lightheavyweight Moorer got knocked out late. and even in that one, Foreman was dominated until Moorer gassed where Foreman could take advantage. So who exactly was George dominant against?

[komandante]

JMM was a cheat.