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  • kafkod
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    #81
    Originally posted by Boxing lives
    The terms were disclosed boy. It was a multi fight offer to fight on dazn. It included not 1 but 2 aj fights, along with that brezeale fight. So it was a lowball that favored aj even if wilder beat him in the first fight (which Deontay would obviously have easily won). Obviously now that aj has been exposed as a loser Deontay looks like a genius for not taking less than his worth as the best heavyweight in the world. Fury is the only other rival in his league.
    The terms were disclosed, and the option for Wilder to fight AJ alone was was also disclosed by the same source.

    You decided to accept one part of what was disclosed as true and reject the other part as poppycock because you are looking for excuses for Wilder's ducking.

    You are also conveniently forgetting that Wilder himself said that he wouldn't accept an offer to fight AJ unless he was given a rematch clause, and he also demanded that these 2 fights with AJ should be included in a contract to fight Dillian Whyte.

    He would also have wanted a rematch clause for the Whyte fight, so that's Wilder himself demanding a multi fight deal from Hearn. What's your next excuse going to be, son?

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    • Laligalaliga
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      #82
      Originally posted by Boxing lives
      I’m sure wilder and Ruiz will unify soon enough. You sure are high on a unified champion that went through the likes of Charles Martin for such an achievement.
      That same Martin had to cross wilder's back yard across the Atlantic ocean, down to the UK to defend his title. Wilder wasn't brave enough to unify with another champ next door.
      Tell me something else.

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      • Laligalaliga
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        #83
        Originally posted by champion4ever
        No, all he has to do is just touch that side of his face in order to reopen up those gashes because Fury is going to get hit again and watch how the blood in that damaged scar tissue over his right eye just start gushing out.

        It can take up to several years for that damaged scar tissue to heal. In Fury's case, it will take even longer because he is still an active fighter who would have to do live sparring. So he can easily re-injure that cut in training.
        That's mere assumption.....if he becomes too anxious, he will find it hard to hit the target and we all know what that means. He will be referred to as former champ...he can't get a gift draw twice.

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          #84
          Could be a dangerous fight for wilder the 2nd time around b4 ortiz was brought to his knees he did rock & wobble wilder brain badly

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            #85
            Originally posted by Laligalaliga
            That's mere assumption.....if he becomes too anxious, he will find it hard to hit the target and we all know what that means. He will be referred to as former champ...he can't get a gift draw twice.
            True, however we don't know what state of mind Tyson Fury would be in come fight night. He could go into the fight very loose and confident or he can go into that feeling very frozen, tight and tense without letting his hands go.

            Moreover, we don't know if any indelible scars were left Tyson's his mind or pysch from that vicious knockdown he suffered in that twelfth round of that original bout with the "Bronze Bomber" Deontay wilder; In which he was nearly decapitated. In addition, we won't know how he will feel about re-injuring those cuts again.

            So these are just some of the variables that Tyson Fury will have to face and deal with before entering into that rematch with Deontay Wilder.

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              #86
              Originally posted by champion4ever
              True, however we don't know what state of mind Tyson Fury would be in come fight night. He could go into the fight very loose and confident or he can go into that feeling very frozen, tight and tense without letting his hands go.

              Moreover, we don't know if any indelible scars were left Tyson's his mind or pysch from that vicious knockdown he suffered in that twelfth round of that original bout with the "Bronze Bomber" Deontay wilder; In which he was nearly decapitated. In addition, we won't know how he will feel about re-injuring those cuts again.

              So these are just some of the variables that Tyson Fury will have to face and deal with before entering into that rematch with Deontay Wilder.
              Because we don't know, that's what make boxing interesting. No one knows until fight night.
              Who knows if Wilder will still be champ going into the new year. Do you?

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              • Boxing lives
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                #87
                Originally posted by kafkod
                The terms were disclosed, and the option for Wilder to fight AJ alone was was also disclosed by the same source.

                You decided to accept one part of what was disclosed as true and reject the other part as poppycock because you are looking for excuses for Wilder's ducking.

                You are also conveniently forgetting that Wilder himself said that he wouldn't accept an offer to fight AJ unless he was given a rematch clause, and he also demanded that these 2 fights with AJ should be included in a contract to fight Dillian Whyte.

                He would also have wanted a rematch clause for the Whyte fight, so that's Wilder himself demanding a multi fight deal from Hearn. What's your next excuse going to be, son?
                Hearn was trying to get Wilder to fight his lower tier Whyte. Wilder wasn't interested in cherry picking AJs leftovers. He is the longest reigning champion. He doesn't have to settle for a b stringer like Whyte. He demanded the best fighter in Hearn's stable, Anthony Joshua. He said he would fight Whyte if AJ contractually obligated himself to Wilder after, which was shamelessly refused! Wilder didn't want the Whyte fight at all. He simply would accept wasting his career fighting this lower tier Whyte scrub if it meant getting AJ. It serves Deontay no purpose to fight this lesser fighter just for the hell of it. Wilder fights the best fighters out there. He was willing to go straight to the AJ fight. He fought Ortiz, fought Fury. He fights all the top guys. After he beats Ortiz and Fury, he will fight Ruiz again to become undisputed. Thats just the kind of fighter Deontay is. He takes on all comers. Is that clear?

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                • Boxing lives
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Laligalaliga
                  That same Martin had to cross wilder's back yard across the Atlantic ocean, down to the UK to defend his title. Wilder wasn't brave enough to unify with another champ next door.
                  Tell me something else.
                  Haha yeah right. Charles Martin took the AJ fight because it was the EASIEST unification fight. Martin fled the country to avoid Wilder thinking he would have an easier time with the inexperienced muscle bound AJ!

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by SOPH~ REP.
                    Could be a dangerous fight for wilder the 2nd time around b4 ortiz was brought to his knees he did rock & wobble wilder brain badly
                    People are overlooking Ortiz's long layoff of 9 months by the time he steps back in the ring. Ortiz is regularly a 3/5 month apart fighter. At his age it will effect him much more so I think its a bigger obstacle this time.

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                    • Laligalaliga
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Boxing lives
                      Haha yeah right. Charles Martin took the AJ fight because it was the EASIEST unification fight. Martin fled the country to avoid Wilder thinking he would have an easier time with the inexperienced muscle bound AJ!
                      Lol.....wilder was not man enough to make the fight.....same happened to parker and again to wlad when the WBA/WBO/IBO was available for grabs.
                      All these omissions/ducka can't be a coincidence if you have any cell remaining in your brain.

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