Comments Thread For: Spence-Porter To Earn $2 million Each; Benavidez-Dirrell $1M

[Scipio2009]

Haymon be like: “here’s how we funna do! You funna spend only $30k this year, the rest we funna save away, but we funna save the money in the Gaymon Islands offshore just in case I needs to flee!”

What Harvard trained lawyer sounds like that, you racist ****?!

[Bullrider]

A nobody like Luis Ortiz must be full of regrets turning down $5 - 7 million, not to mention a shot at 3 titles.

[adeathnote]

I’ve been talking about this for awhile... Crawford is making bigger on paper purses for regular ESPN fights then PBC PPV’s.

[Scipio2009]

Showtime gonna be done soon mark my words. I knew HBO was gonna drop them and one of my friends was a die hard SuperSonics fan and I told him they were leaving 2 years before they did.

New age we live in now.

Write Showtime off if you want.

FOX has this PPV, it's assumed that they'll have the Wilder-Ortiz PPV in November, and basically one more show left for this year; I'm not as sure about the count for the FS1 dates, but those are FS1 dates.

Showtime just had a great ShoBox card last week, have Claressa Shields' ring return next week, just announced a pretty evenly matched double-header for the end of October, have Davis-Gamboa being set up for this year as well, and then Showtime is the only partner under the PBC umbrella with dates available for big fights this year (one more will still end up on FOX, but Harrison-Charlo 2, a likely Williams-Lara fight, a possible date for Kownacki, and dates for Leo Santa Cruz and Gary Russell Jr still need placement; in a perfect world, it'd be Leo vs Gary, but the world isn't perfect).

There are too many good fights and good fighters to cover everything with 4 PPVs, 10 FOX dates, and 12 FS1 shows.

Showtime is carrying the load on this now, but the future isn't far off; Wilder and Spence are potential PPV stars (possibly even three fights a year), Gervonta Davis is just behind them on the PPV trajectory, and then you've got a ton of interesting fights at 154, Plant and possibly Benevidez at 168, Jermall Charlo still building his own castle at 160lbs, Gary Russell Jr and Leo Santa Cruz at 126, the rest of the fights at 147, and a slew of young fighters (Jamal James, Mario Barrios, etc) making that jump from exciting prospect to featured contender, and all those fights/fighters are going to need TV dates.

[NC Uppercut]

This PPV isn't gonna sell well. Simple mathematics. I'm sure they'll both earn a little more off the back end if it exceeds expectations. It just doesn't make business sense to guarantee these guys crazy money for with sh-t numbers. Everyone needs their piece of the pie.

Side note. I hate PBC on Fox. The commentary is just awful. Same goes for DAZN. ESPN is not too far off. Showtime is the best hands down & Hbo is missed.

BX I agree with the crappy commentary on Fox. Sho is good and HBO is slightly missed.
I do disagree about the PPV #’s. I’m thinking anything above 275,000 will be a success. I hunk they’ll do around 320,000. We shall see

[NC Uppercut]

Write Showtime off if you want.

FOX has this PPV, it's assumed that they'll have the Wilder-Ortiz PPV in November, and basically one more show left for this year; I'm not as sure about the count for the FS1 dates, but those are FS1 dates.

Showtime just had a great ShoBox card last week, have Claressa Shields' ring return next week, just announced a pretty evenly matched double-header for the end of October, have Davis-Gamboa being set up for this year as well, and then Showtime is the only partner under the PBC umbrella with dates available for big fights this year (one more will still end up on FOX, but Harrison-Charlo 2, a likely Williams-Lara fight, a possible date for Kownacki, and dates for Leo Santa Cruz and Gary Russell Jr still need placement; in a perfect world, it'd be Leo vs Gary, but the world isn't perfect).

There are too many good fights and good fighters to cover everything with 4 PPVs, 10 FOX dates, and 12 FS1 shows.

Showtime is carrying the load on this now, but the future isn't far off; Wilder and Spence are potential PPV stars (possibly even three fights a year), Gervonta Davis is just behind them on the PPV trajectory, and then you've got a ton of interesting fights at 154, Plant and possibly Benevidez at 168, Jermall Charlo still building his own castle at 160lbs, Gary Russell Jr and Leo Santa Cruz at 126, the rest of the fights at 147, and a slew of young fighters (Jamal James, Mario Barrios, etc) making that jump from exciting prospect to featured contender, and all those fights/fighters are going to need TV dates.

Out of all the fights you mentioned, Gamboa vs Davis and Leo vs Gary sound the best to me!!! Hopefully they come to fruition.

[Scipio2009]

Spence been going around acting like he's the cash cow making more money than everybody when in reality on paper he's making less than Crawford and I don't even want to hear about no backend money because it's not like these guys are selling even 500k-1m PPV's hell, this fight probably wont even break 250-300k. He's not even making more than Porter lol

Mayweather's guarantees alone were 20-30 million at 29-30 years old.

Spence need to get back to being humble and just fight. He ain't no dam cash cow lol.

Floyd's guarantees weren't $20m-$30m when he was 30 years old because his total pay package for the fight with Oscar in 2007 didn't get to $30m, and he'd just gotten out of his deal and crowed about making $8m and a dollar (when Bob Arum didn't think Floyd would get more than $8m for any fight) to fight Carlos Baldomir.

Errol Spence is growing; he's not Floyd yet, but he's basically, in starpower/money, about where Floyd was when he fought Carlos Baldomir for $8m.

Spence handles his business in the ring, and the business outside of the ring positions things for that Pacquiao fight, with the general sports world starting to get hip to "The Truth", and you've potentially got a young, confident, action packed, media savvy, three-belt world champion with Vegas still out there as ****** earth to build to.

The fight doesn't need to sell 500k for back-end money to come; depending on what the other revenues bring to bear and the cost of putting on the event, with both guys taking okay guarantees, the back-end likely starts kicking in after 100k-150k PPV buys, lol.

Not what you don't know before you slip

[Scipio2009]

Crawford will be getting $3 mil guaranteed for his next fight against the Mean Machine! Crawford also received a guaranteed $5.5 mil for his last fight against Khan who received $5 mil himself! Crawford making more guaranteed money than all the WW except Manny!

With zero upside because it's been assumed that Top Rank lost their ass on the Khan PPV.

Spence Jr got $3m guaranteed for the Mikey Garcia fight, but that fight ended up having the initial tracking number at over 350k PPV buys (for argument not counting anyone who purchased the fight later from Fox Sports).

At $65/$75, that basically comes out to $12m for the US TV (after paying the distributors), another $5m from the live gate, however much from the UK, however much from the sponsors, however much from the rest of the international TV, etc.

Mikey and Spence got $6m as their guarantee, but wouldn't shock me one bit if they ended up splitting $15m between them.

Context is a beautiful thing

[Removed Now]

Damn I guess that's why Bud stayed with Top Rank

Money will not help his resume though.

[kilojay505]

Money will not help his resume though.

Spoken like a true wilder fan