Comments Thread For: Showtime's Espinoza: Wilder-Ortiz PPV 'Deal Didn't Make Sense For Us'

[Laligalaliga]

Unless they were guaranteed in writing to get the Wilder-Fury PPV, why waste money to get this?

This fight will do fair numbers but I doubt it does more than usual.

[factsarenice]

Who in the hell would pay Ppv for this fight ?

Bronx wannabe, Motorcity and Old tool.

[Nightfall]

Man, Wilder turned down a guaranteed $100 million plus to be loyal and Showtime says he’s not worth their money?

That $ 100 million had options and a pile of sh💩t added to it. He made the right decision.🥊

[Bob Haymon]

I highly doubt it. Showtime has had far worse years than this in the past.

Remember when guys like Calzaghe and Hatton were fighting nobodies in the UK and that was their biggest fights of the month?

They still had smaller US promoters building their fighters on Showtime. Andre Ward, Tim Bradley, Devon Alexander all started on Showtime. They also had smaller guys like Darchiniyan. Fights that would've been on Showtime in the past are now on ESPN+, FS1 and DAZN.

[Shadoww702]

Bronx wannabe, Motorcity and Old tool.

And me as well. Should be a decent fight. I’ve bought worse. Crawford Postol. Khanelo.

Never bought CanChavez or Liam Smith. Still never seen those fights or Fielding.

[TScott2254]

Why does it matter if Wilder turns down a DAZN offer or what any fighter makes? As a fan all I care about is they fight the best fights possible.

DAZN hasn't been really making top fights happen nor has ESPN. I prefer fighters to be FREE AGENTS so they can make the best fights. The fact this fight can be moved to another network works best for the fans.

So once again why do any fans care what fighters make? If anything fighters taking these multi deal network contracts is the reason we don't get fights. Have your own promotion company and bid the fights to who ever wants to make the best fights.

[factsarenice]

This fight will do fair numbers but I doubt it does more than usual.

The PPV won't generate 150k buys. Ortiz will be lucky if he makes two million.

[Bob Haymon]

Espinoza can claim otherwise but Showtime is for all intents and purposes dead. They might occasionally show signs of life when they over pay for Wilder and Davis fights, but they're barely getting any viewers for anything else. This past Friday's ShoBox card barely had 180k viewers for the main event and the card as a whole had about 150k viewers.

[REDEEMER]

Wilder isn't pay per view without Fury or AJ, so it's good for us . To bad Wilder really isn't that smart , poor guy was told to turn down a guaranteed 100 million .

[factsarenice]

Like Crawford vs Spence or Spence vs Danny or Thurman or maybe Haney vs Tank or Wilder vs Ruiz...you mean fights like that?

Why does it matter if Wilder turns down a DAZN offer or what any fighter makes? As a fan all I care about is they fight the best fights possible.

DAZN hasn't been really making top fights happen nor has ESPN. I prefer fighters to be FREE AGENTS so they can make the best fights. The fact this fight can be moved to another network works best for the fans.

So once again why do any fans care what fighters make? If anything fighters taking these multi deal network contracts is the reason we don't get fights. Have your own promotion company and bid the fights to who ever wants to make the best fights.